Bethel

Foreword

Introduction

Heretical Article No. 68: "The Seven heavenly angels that came down to earth in the cloud with the seven seals, are the seven theophanies or spiritual bodies of the seven church age messenger."

Question #1: "Why was the visitation of the angelic being to Brother Branham on Mount Sunset and what was the mission of those angelic beings (Theophanies of the seven church messengers)?"

Heretical Article No. 69: "Each seal and each church age messenger's message was a thunder; therefore the seven thunders are the seven messages (lived voices) of the seven church ages."

Question #2: "What was the mission of those 7 angels that came to earth?"

Heretical Article No. 70: "The notable angel in the cloud is the seventh angel of Revelation 10:7 in his theophany; the one to reveal the seven thunders."

Question #3: "If only six of the seals were opened, which you claim, who then will open the seventh seal apart from a major prophet?"

Heretical Article No.71: "The 7 thunders are all the mysteries that the 7th angel of Rev.10:7 revealed. They are the revelations contained in all seven seals."

Question #4: "What then was the ministry of Br. Branham and what fulfillment does Rev.10:7 have to this generation in line with Br. Branham ministry."

Heretical Article No. 72: "Rapturing faith comes by all the mysteries that were revealed by the seventh angel, since they are the seven thunders."

Question # 5: "What will give the bride rapturing faith, show the bride how to prepare and give the bride a revival?"

Question # 6: "When then will these scriptures be fulfilled?"

Question # 7: "What is the hope of the promised Bride in this last age?"

Question # 8: "(In pg. 122-123 of the seals), the prophet said "He is as positive as he was standing that night that the Rev. come afresh that very day from the Almighty God. What was that Revelation then?"

Heretical Article # 73: "The seven voices of the seven seals are the seven thunders of Revelation 10: 1"

Heretical Article # 74: "Brother Branham said on page 557 of the seals book that he had the revelation of the seventh seal"

Question # 9: My Brother from the above statement, does that mean that Bro. Braham do not know what was happening or what has happened? Or indeed are we to expect another messenger? Please think on these."

Question # 10: "Why then are you saying that it is not revealed?"

Question #11: "Are we not carefully, prayerfully, studying the message?"

Question # 12: "Then tell us who will reveal it and when if it is reveal."

Question # 13: "When will it be revealed? When shall it be opened and revealed even as we are approaching his eminence appearing?"

Question # 14: "How can one say it is not Thus Saith the Lord? Why then is the Thus Saith the Lord for?"

Heretical Article No. 75: "The notable angel in the cloud is the 7th angel of Rev. 10:7 (Br. Branham in his theophany). The one to reveal the 7 thunders"

Heretical Article No. 76: "The entirety of the message of Brother Branham is the thunder message."

Question # 15: "Who will then reveal the new name apart from a major prophet and When?"

Question # 16: "Shall we look for an eight prophet; which will run out all the types completely"

Heretical Article No. 77: "The Bride is being revived by heretical thunders."

Question # 17: "Is the Bride been revived, shown how to prepare for rapturing faith since the 7 thunders were revealed even as she await the third pull ?"

Question # 1: "What is the difference between the five fold ministry of Ephesians 4:11 and Revelation 10:3?"

Question # 2: "What are the Seven Thunders?"

Heretical Article No. 78 : "William Soto Santiago is Jesus incarnated which was foreran by Brother Branham."

Question # 3: "Yesterday you said Br. Williams is Jesus incarnated which was forerun by Br. Branham. The Word says when Christ is coming in secret with a mission of rapture/ is that not a contradiction of the Word of God?"

Heretical Article No. 79 : "William Soto Santiago is the cornerstone prophet, preaching rapturing faith

Question # 4: "Br. William is the Cornerstone Prophet preaching the message for Rapturing Faith. Now what was the Third Pull for Br. Branham?"

Heretical Article No. 80: "The headstone and the cornerstone are the same"

Question # 5: "Would you make a brief commentary on the Capstone, Headstone and the Cornerstone? Are they different or are they the same?"

Heretical Article No. 81: "The notable Angel with the 7th seal flew eastwards, to Puerto Rico, which is geographically located eastward of North America."

Question # 6: "Is it geographically true to say Latin America is in the west of North America (Where Santiago is)?"

Question # 7: "Who is the "Cornerstone referred to? Jesus Christ or William Soto Santiago? For we must be "IN THE VOICE OF..."

Heretical Article No. 82: "The Angel of the Lord Jesus Christ is materializing now in William Santiago."

Question # 8: "The Angel of the Lord Jesus Christ who is materializing now in William, does it mean William pre-existed?"

Heretical Article No. 83: "William Santiago was present in theophany form when Bro. Branham was preaching his message, and he introduced him."

Question # 9: "If William was there when Branham was preaching as his message, why, he did not introduce him or know him?"

Question # 10: "In the morning Quotation of the Seventh Seal we saw that only Thunders are the mystery; has this Angel revealed them?"

Heretical Article No. 84: "The vindication of Christ in Santiago is his heretical message, which he is identified by."

Question # 11: "Brother, if this Angel is greater with these offices or gifts till he is Jesus Christ incarnate. What are the vindications of Christ Jesus in Him? For Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever?"

Question # 12: "William Soto Santiago, How can we identify him to be the messenger of the Cornerstone? Who is he?"

Heretical Article No. 85: "Santiago is a prophet fulfilling the ministry of Moses and Elias to the Jews. He will die, according to Revelation 11."

Question # 13: "What exactly are you telling us about Br. William; Is he a prophet? Or Jesus incarnation?"

Question # 14: "Will this Angel be Elijah and Moses?"

Question # 15: "Will this messenger die?"

Heretical Article No. 86: "The fifth Elijah to the Jews will be a gentile. He will also have a message to the Gentiles."

Question # 16: "Will the 5th Elijah be a Gentile?"

Question # 17: "Will he have a Message to the Gentiles?"

Heretical Article No. 87 : "Jesus only became God after the scene at the river Jordan when the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in the form of a dove"

Question # 35: "Some said that Jesus was born God Almighty from the womb. Some say that he became God after the scene at river Jordan when heaven and earth embraced each other, that's why he grew in wisdom as the Bible proclaim, that God grew in wisdom."

Heretical Article No. 88 : "Jesus was not born God - that is why He grew in wisdom"

Questions # 36: "Some are saying he did not have the spirit before the banks of Jordan. That is why he was not born God. That is why he grew in wisdom as the Bible proclaim that God cannot grow in wisdom."

Heretical Article No. 89 : "Jesus was an ordinary man who was used like all other prophets - if we say He is God, then you cannot condemn those who call Brother Branham, Elohim."

Question # 37: "Some said that he was an ordinary man that was used by God like other prophets of old. Then there is no reason to condemn those that call Brother Branham as Elohim."

Question # 38: "Some were confused of him being the beginning of the creation of God as in Revelation 3:14 and can't reconcile the scripture with Colossians 1: 15 to 17."

Question # 39: "Some cannot reconcile Colossian 1:15-17 with Rev. 3:14."

Question # 40: "Are they two separate things?"

Heretical Article No. 90 : "Jesus was just a Logos in the form of God, and not the complete or entirety of God."

Question # 41: "Some said that he is just a Logos that went out of God. He was in the form of God, not the complete or the entirety of God. Phil. 2:5-6."

Heretical Article No. 91 : "Jesus is just our elder brother who will one day hand over the Kingdom to God."

Question # 42: "They propagated, that Jesus is our elder brother in eternity and go on to hand over the kingdom, according to 1 Corinthians 15: 24-28

Heretical Article No. 92 : "The mystery of Colossians 2:2 speaks of God, the father and Christ as three different entities from each another."

Question 43: "Some preach trying to make Colossians 2:2 the mystery, Christ as three entities, to make people to see them different from one another."

Question # 44: "Some said that He is the Melchesidec while others dispute it, that Melchesidec had no beginning, which Jesus has."

Heretical Article No. 93 : "Michael the Archangel is merely an angel liken unto Gabriel and wormwood."

Question # 45: "Some said Michael the Archangel is Jesus Christ, while others said that Michael is merely an angel liken unto Wormwood or Gabriel."

Question # 46: "Please elaborate more on these two subjects that Brother Branham hit so hard, as believers are gradually diving into it: the 'Oneness' and the 'Jesus Only' doctrines."

Heretical Article No. 94 : "The disciples did not receive the Holy Ghost on the day of Pentecost, but rather, they received it in John 20: 9-23 when Jesus breathed on them."

Question # 47: "There is a teaching here that the disciples did not receive the Holy Ghost on the day of Pentecost, according to Acts. Chapter: 2. Rather that they received it in John 20: 9-23

Question # 48: "When God said let us create man, to whom was he referring too in Genesis?"

Heretical Article No. 95 : "In Genesis one when God said let there be light, that's the time Christ, the Logos came into existence."

Question # 49: "While He was at the banks of Jordan & Mount Transfiguration who spoke from heaven to Him while He was standing on earth?"

Heretical Article No. 96 : "Brother Branham is Elohim, the Holy Spirit. Therefore, we should pray and baptize in his name."

Question # 50: "In Nigeria, some believe that Brother Branham is Elohim, thereby praying and baptizing in his name." "They have taken St. John 16:12-16, and say that refers to Brother Branham. ."

Heretical Article No. 97 : "Brother Branham is the son of man."

Question # 51: "Some say brother Branham is the Son of Man. I thought the pillar of fire was the Son of Man, am I mistaken?"

Question # 52: "Resurrection of Brother Branham."

Heretical Article No. 98 : "A minister must marry a virgin. To ensure they do, they must test the women to ensure whether they are virgins or not"

Question # 53: "We have the 7 thunders/7th seal cults, who believe in physical virginity, that a brother, especially a minister, should marry a virgin. They went about defiling sisters by testing them, whether they are virgins or not."

Question # 54: "Some believes in polygamy, that Brother Branham legalized it. They have the quotes from marriage and divorce."

Heretical Article No. 99 : "Fornication and adultery is not sin, as long as it is agreed by both parties and force is not applied. Children born from such union are not illegitimate"

Question # 55: "There is one demonized one in Nigeria called Apostle Peter. He preaches that fornication and adultery is not sin, as long as it is agreed by both parties and force is not applied. That you can go into another man's wife if she agrees. And children given birth in the process, would not be called illegitimate, but rather, they'll be called children of the altar.'."

Heretical Article No. 100 : "Alcohol can be drunk by message believers"

Question # 56: "He allows people to drink alcohol & says that is nothing."

Question # 57: "He said, he shed his blood for his followers, and he is still living on earth today. ."

Heretical Article No. 101 : "The Holy Spirit leaves the earth prior to the rapture, enters Jesus' body and comes back for the Bride."

Heretical Article No. 102 : "There is no more move of the Spirit for the Bride after Brother Branham. There are only two moves of the Spirit in the Laodicean church age: one in 1906, and two, the revival of 1946 that was spearheaded by Brother Branham."

Heretical Article No. 103 : "The third pull is to the total lost only and has nothing to do with the saving of souls. When it is manifested at the squeeze none can be saved."

Question # 58 : "Brother Branham said that the third pull is for the Bride and the church, but to the total lost. So, the third pull has nothing to do with saving souls. It has to do with a revival to the Bride. Right or wrong?"

Question # 59: "When you say the total lost, what do you mean?

Heretical Article No. 104 : "The squeeze comes after the door of mercy is shut. It is the closing of the door."

Heretical Article No. 105 : "Adoption, manifestation of the third pull, the church receiving the fullness of the Spirit etc., takes place after the blood leaves the mercy seat."

Question # 60 : "The third pull will catch the rainbow trout. I would like you to explain that to me and do you have a quotation on that."

Question # 61: The coming third pull is not Word, it is manifestation. So you are saying it's the manifestation that will catch the Bride?

Question # 62: Do you agree that the third pull would have already gone forth in Word form?

Question # 63: What is going to catch the Bride, will it be the Word or manifestation of the third pull?

Question # 64: "We are looking for a great manifestation of God. I call it the third pull. Do you have a quote whether it is before or after the blood comes off the mercy seat?"

Question # 65: "I believe I'll ride this trail again; I got to bring a Message." Do you take this statement on the basis of what is said there?

Question # 66: "At the end of Revelation 3, the Bride goes up? Do you think it is fair to put the Bride in Revelation 10?"

Question # 67: Do you take that statement that Brother Branham made on the wings of a snow white dove, have you ever taken that literally?

Question 68: So, three quarters of it is Brother Branham but the fourth part is not Brother Branham?

Question 69: I am looking for a third pull ministry. Are you expecting a worldwide salvation, for people to be saved by the multitude here, there?

Heretical Article No. 106 : "The Bride is already caught."

Question # 70: They (the Bride) are not caught?

Question # 71: "(Some members of the Bride are yet in organizations, in different places and are yet in heathen lands) Do you have quotes for that?"

Question # 72: "What you are looking for, all the Bride coming in one church and gathering together?"

Question # 73: "What is the reason why the rest of Trinidad and Tobago isn't at Brother Bruce church; what is the reason?"

Question # 74: "What are the limitations of women in the church?"

Question # 75: "Can a woman lead children Bible studies?"

Heretical Article No. 107: "Women in the message can hold women's service in the house of God and teach the other women, if men are not present"

Question # 76: "Can women in the message hold a women's service and teach the other women, right in the house of God, if men are not present"

Question # 77: "Can she read the Bible for the preacher when he request that one should read for him?"

Heretical Article No. 108 : "Women could function as song leaders"

Question # 78: "Can they be song leaders?"

Heretical Article No. 109: "When a woman plaits her hair, she should cover it with a scarf because her scull is partly exposed"

Question # 79: "Some believe when a woman plaits her hair she should cover it with a scarf, for the scull is seen or exposed when the hair is plaited."

Question # 80: "Can she interpret for the preacher?"

Heretical Article No. 110 : "Women are not to preach, but they could teach by way of literature and writing articles on magazines"

Question # 81: "Is it alright for women to teach by way of literature and write articles on magazines?"

Heretical Article No. 111 : "Believers should not have certain animals in their homes. It is unholines"

Question # 82: "Can a believer keep a dog at home? There is a brother in Bombay who was advised by the end time preacher not to have cow, dog, cat, at home, that it is unholiness."

Question # 83: "Can a believer brother marry a believer bride, whose age is more than his age?"

Question # 84: "If a pastor, because he did not find the song- leader come on time, was angry and left the pulpit and went home, when the congregation was in prayer. Is this a right thing by this pastor who is in the Message?

Question # 85: "If a person was found wrong and don't want to be corrected by the elders or members in the Church, is it a right spirit?"

Question # 86: "Many pastors are quoting the prophet's word, "If anybody thinks that he is more than the pastor he can leave the church," and these pastors don't want to take correction when they are doing wrong. Is it right?"

Question # 87: "Pyjamas choreida, it is the Indian women's dress. Can a believer wear this?"

Question # 88: "Wearing necklace. Is it right for a Christian woman?"

Question # 89: "What are the two schools of thought on the subject of marriage and divorce, and which one is right?"

Question # 90: "When was the true revelation on marriage and divorce revealed to the prophet of God?"

Question # 91: "What was the revelation given to him?"

Question # 92: "What was Brother Branham's teaching on this subject before the revelation came to him at the opening of the seals, and what school of thought such teaching belong to?"

Question # 93: "Can the man remarry?

Question # 94: "On what grounds could he remarry?"

Question # 95: "Can a woman put away her husband?"

Question # 96: "Can the woman remarry if she was put away, or if she was separated before she became a Christian?"

Question # 97: "Does the scripture in 1 Corinthian 7: 13-15 means that she could remarry if her unbelieving husband departs?"

Question # 98: "If a woman's husband is dead can she remarry?"

Question # 99: "Can a remarried minister be ordained and continue to preach the gospel if he was pardoned by the Lord, when the revelation of marriage and divorce came to the prophet?"

Question # 100: "Could a man forgive his wife and continue to live with her if she committed adultery? I read in the edited church age that Adam should not have taken back his wife? It lacks consistency with the teachings of the prophet

Question # 101: "Should a woman confess her wrongs to her husband which she did before marriage?"

Question # 102: Could a believer marry a non believer if they love each other?

Question # 103: "If a minister should perform a blessing on such a union, what would be the consequences?"

Question # 104: "Then what are the criteria that a minister should look for before pronouncing his blessing upon a couple who are about to be married?"

Question # 105: If someone had promised their hand in marriage to another and then annuls it and chooses to marry someone else, could a minister pronounce his blessing upon such a union? How sacred are these vows or promises?

Question # 106: "Did the prophet lay down any other grounds on which a man could put away his wife? Can he be remarried under those conditions?"

Question # 107: "Who received pardon from the Lord when Brother Branham preached marriage and divorce?"

Question # 108: "What guidelines did the prophet give to Christians when choosing a marriage partner?"

Heretical Article No. 112: quote W. Wood. "Christ is the mystery of the seventh seal revealed". "The questions in the minds of many honest message believers, concerning the great seventh seal. Was it revealed to the Prophet William Branham, and if so, did he preached the mystery of it. Let it be said in the beginning that this writer, is convinced that the answer to both of these questions is a definite "Yes". We grant that the mystery was preached in riddles, and that the revelation given to Brother Branham, in March of 1963 was progressive in that it deepened until the time of his departure".

Question # 109: Was the Seventh Seal revealed in riddles and parables 1964-1965?

Heretical Article No. 113: quote W. Wood. "Christ is the mystery of the seventh seal revealed". "There would be about the space of half an hour of time pass, according to Rev. 8:1, before the revelation would start. (Perhaps about 20 years, if one day is a thousand years with the Lord.) If this writer's memory is correct, some of our minister brothers began to understand the Mystery under the Seventh Seal in about 1983, perhaps a few a little ahead of that. From 1963 until 1983, is twenty years and the silence in Heaven was broken as God began to show the opening of the Seal".

Question # 110: Is the half an hour silence 20 yrs from 1963-1983?

Heretical Article 114: quote W. Wood. "Christ is the mystery of the seventh seal revealed". The opening of the Seventh Seal was over a period of time, it was in three stages. The Prophet said, "It's in a threefold manner." "When the Seventh Seal was opened to the Prophet, there was about one half hour of silence. The public received no revelation concerning it. Twenty years passed and God opened the Seal to a few brothers (In the early 80's). Now, twenty more years have passed and the Mystery is being revealed to the Bride in general. We are looking for the Resurrection of the Dead in Christ! Amen".

Question # 111: Was the Seventh Seal revealed progressively and then given to several minister brothers over a period of time and then the Bride in general? Does such teaching account for the three fold manner of the Seventh Seal?

Heretical Article No. 115: quote W. Wood. "Christ is the mystery of the seventh seal revealed". "His emphasis was on the fact that Jesus Christ had come to earth in the body form of a prophet, to fulfill Luke 17:22-30, Rev 10:1-3, and other related scriptures. This coming is now history, as we look back and see what God has done. In Luke 17:24, the Lord Jesus did come as the lightening. Can we see that the prophet clearly spoke of two comings of the Lord, one before the rapture, in the body form of a prophet and one later in the clouds to catch the bride away? The Son of Man came down to enter into a son of man, a prophet to prepare his bride for rapture.

Question # 112: "Is Brother Branham Malachi 4:5 & 6, the forerunner or the second coming of Jesus Christ in a bodily form?"

Heretical Article 116: quote W. Wood. "Christ is the mystery of the seventh seal revealed". THE OPENING OF THE SEVENTH SEAL WAS THE COMING OF THE HEADSTONE TO CAP THE PYRAMID. It was the Stone cut out of the mountain with out hands. When the Lord Jesus Christ came on Sunset Mountain, He was the Headstone that the Prophet declared would come and cap the Pyramid. He had been rejected in the days of His Ministry 2000 years ago, by all except His Elect Bride, and today, when He came again as the Headstone to cap the Pyramid, He was rejected by all except His Bride.

Question # 113: "Is the coming of the Lord the headstone in his first coming or his second coming hidden in Brother Branham?"

Heretical Article 117: quote W. Wood. "Christ is the mystery of the seventh seal revealed". The first stage of the Rapture is in progress, and has been so since the Seals were opened. We must be very near to the second stage, which will be the Voice to call the dead Bride from the graves. We are showing that the Rapture is being brought to pass in three stages, over a period of time.

Question # 114: Has the raptures started in 1963, are there three stages?

Heretical Article No. 118: quote W. Wood. "Christ is the mystery of the seventh seal revealed". "Brother Branham, himself, apparently did not understand the full meaning of the vision for quite a long time. He truly thought he would minister in a huge tent before his ministry was over. A number of statements he made backs this up, although it never became a reality. But, if what the Voice told him be true (and we know it was), then the Tent was only a spiritual representation of the Third Pull Ministry. It apparently represented meetings that the Prophet would have where Jesus Christ in him, would re-enact His own Ministry of 2000 years ago, which was the Third Pull Ministry.

Question # 115: Is the Tent vision fulfilled, did Brother Branham misinterpret the vision and does Mr. Wood have the right interpretation?

Heretical Article No. 119: quote W. Wood. "Christ is the mystery of the seventh seal revealed". "It seems to this writer that the little room, or closet, represented the deep secret that veiled the Third Pull Ministry of the Prophet.

Question # 116: Were the little room of the great tent vision fulfilled in Brother Branham's house, where he waited on the Lord for the Revelation of the Seals in 1963?

Heretical Article No. 120: quote W. Wood. "Christ is the mystery of the seventh seal revealed". Was the third pull ministry completed, was it finished before the prophet was taken up, we believe that we have proved in previous chapters of this book that the prophet's ministry was finished when he left.

Question # 117: Were the third pull ministry completed by Brother Branham and the opening of the seals?

Heretical Article No. 121: quote W. Wood. "Christ is the mystery of the seventh seal revealed". "From Sunset Mountain, Brother Branham was sent back to Jeffersonville to have the Seven Mysterious Thunders revealed to him. Each day for seven days one of the seven angelic beings (Men) entered the room at Jeffersonville with the Prophet, and gave him the revelation to be preached that night, starting with the First Church Age Messenger, the Apostle Paul. On the day that the Seventh Seal was to be preached that night, Brother Branham's own theophany body appeared to him and opened the great and mysterious Seventh Seal. The Prophet knew it from that time on, but the public did not, neither did very many if any, of the Message Believers catch the revelation at that time". But, now that the Great Mystery is being revealed to more and more of the Bride, we see another proof of the nearness of the Rapture.

Question # 118: Did the Theophany of Brother Branham revealed the seventh seal/seven thunders to him in March 1963 and Paul the Apostle revealed the first seal to him.

SUMMARY OF ALL QUESTIONS ANSWERED

Our books, one to eight, are in circulation in many parts of the world. As a result there are great demands, which we cannot supply fast enough. There are different questions that are coming in from ministers, churches and congregations, concerning heresies that are prevalent amongst message believers, and propagated by heretics in different parts of the world. This work is dedicated to answering these questions in order to help our brethren. I stand ready to do battle against all heresies and heretics.

The questions are based on the seventh seal/seven thunders, opened or not opened, which was presented to us by a pastor from Sierra Leone, Africa, with the help of a panel of ministers. This work also deals with heresies concerning the Godhead, a self proclaimed eighth messenger, limitation of women, immorality and deity heresies. Included is a ministers debate on the subject of the resurrection of Brother Branham to complete his new ministry and questions and answers on the issue of marriage and Divorce.

Some of these questions came from an evangelist from Nigeria, Africa, who is in contact with other ministers. We have sent him books and he has recommended this ministry and the books to them. I will refrain calling his name because of persecution.

Quote letter:

"I have distributed the books you sent to me soberly amongst the ministers, yet the demands are too much. It only went into the hands of the believing ministers of like faith; not yet fallen into the hands of the heretics. People are commenting seriously on them and have been asking me of the other series. I would need Book Five and Book Six, one hundred and fifty copies each. In there lies more of a bombshell. Even in my assembly we have so many ministers, yet I only spared about seven to them. A church about five hundred congregation. Just begin now to prepare for our international ministers' meeting. Next year, if God willing, maybe around February, or there about, but within the first quarter of the next year, we are going to invite you to come and address our ministers; just begin to prepare. The Will of the Lord be done. Please, people are seriously losing the focus of the revelation of the Godhead. That's why I am beckoning Bethel Church to dwell on the subject of the Godhead. While treating the Godhead, consider the book of John as the book that expresses His divine nature. Pick out all the Scriptures relating to, or pertaining to the Godhead, divine nature and treat for people to understand."

May the Lord bless this brother, and although I do not mention his name here, because these tapes will go public, and to secure his integrity and secure him from persecution, I want to say that I greatly appreciate him. You all know his name here. He wrote a fifteen-page letter, and this time his letter is about twenty pages, and we deeply appreciate you brother for the stand you are taking there in Nigeria. We deeply appreciate you in Karnataka, India, for standing there. We acknowledge the labours of the Bethel saints of God of Trinidad, especially to Ronald Jack and Daniel Seebrat for their great contribution to this work of the Lord, along with the other helpers. May this subject here that I am about to deal with be a blessing to you and to all that are with you, and to all the people of God around the world.

This booklet is a compilation of heretical articles taken from magnetic recordings that were exposed at various gatherings at Bethel. It is free of all charges [Freewill contributions are accepted to cover printing and postage cost] and may be reproduced by believers of the message of Malachi 4:5 & 6, but strictly without alteration in any form. We would like to give authorization for translation of this book into different languages. However, we would like to be informed of such and would like copies of the same for approval. We also apologize for any typographical errors in this booklet.

Preached & Written by Dalton Bruce of Bethel "The House of God" Trinidad W.I. & published in July 2003

Arius and Athanasius continue their debate on the greatest controversy of the Godhead, under the message of Malachi 4: 5 & 6. It was in 325 AD at the Nicene Council when they arrived at the conclusion that God is a trinity. It was Democratically voted into the Gospel. This heresy was established and became the foundation of the Catholic church, and later adopted by her daughters - Protestantism and Pentecostalism (Revelation 17…Mother of harlots).

Although the truth of the oneness of God was fully established by Christ, God veiled in human flesh (St. John 1:1-14), and the early Church, apostles and prophets, heretics found it convenient to divide God into three pieces and give it to the gentile world. Therefore, it is no great marvel that controversies on the godhead continue under the message after the great mystery was revealed by the seventh angel (Revelation 10:7) who fully declared that God is one God, revealed as the son of man.

This work, entitled "Exposition of Damnable Heresies - Questions and Answers - Controversies: Seventh Seal/Seven Thunders/Godhead/Deity and Resurrection Heresies" Book 9, is dedicated to the exposition of the spirits of Arius and Athanasius in the framework of the message. Their controversies include vicious attacks, with an attempt to completely destroy the revelation of God in His son, Jesus Christ, revealed as the son of man. They endeavour to make Him two separate deities, co-equal in power, elevating the flesh of Jesus to be Almighty God or one God hiding in individual popes of the message. This is more diabolical and deceiving than the trinity heresy, since it misplaces the revelation of Supreme Deity, placing it in Brother Branham or another chosen vessel.

From the time you say Godhead amongst religious people they get the idea of a trinity, because it was preached for almost two thousand years that there are three persons in the Godhead, the blessed trinity. That is contrary to Scripture. It was invented by Satan and Nimrod of Old, and then it travelled down through the Catholic Church. We are going to study a little bit the Godhead, and the study of the Godhead is not so much to explain to you what is the Godhead, but to put down the wrong interpretations, based on the Godhead. However, as I am answering these questions and putting down heresies on the Godhead, automatically I am teaching the truth on the Godhead, because it takes truth to put down error. And if you listen to the Spirit between the lines, you will understand where we stand concerning the revelation of the Godhead.

This perversion of the revelation of the Godhead is closely linked with the heresies on the seventh seal/seven thunders, since it includes the coming of Christ in the mystery of godliness (1 Timothy 3:16). This work is a combination of questions and answers on the Godhead, seven thunders, claims of Deity and other doctrines. Thus the battle continues against all seven thunders cults, isms and heretics, since they laid the foundation for the perversion of the revelation of the Godhead as certain as they are guilty of destroying the holiness message of our precious prophet, William Branham, Malachi 4:5 & 6, who is also identified in scriptures as the last church age messenger, Revelation 3:14, 10:7.

"And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour." (Revelation 8:1).

"And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices. And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not." (Revelation 10:1-4).

Since we are in the spirit of the seals, I have a few questions that came in to me in the earlier part of this year concerning the seventh seal/seven thunders, opened or not opened. I trust that you can bear a little patience as we go over these things for the edification of our brethren in foreign lands.

"Precious Bro. Bruce,

A lot of commendation from many believers likewise preachers of the message on your articles and the tracts…Many thank God for your stand and mostly your expositions of the heresies in the message. The tracts are being photocopied and distributed because the demand is great.

Even as I distribute the tracts and articles, everyone of them have met me after they received the book five of the articles (The Two Schools of Thoughts). Majority are bold to ask me if I do believe that the seventh seal was not opened neither the seven thunders revealed.

To be sincere with you, all of us in this part as message believers believe that the seven thunders were revealed and the seventh seal opened even though we have little differences on other topics and areas but all of us agreed on the subject just as on the serpent seed.

Below are some of the major questions that made us to believe on the other school of thought and until we get answers according to the message, we still hold on to our convictions. You can please share this questions to other preachers who believe the other school of thought, If possible you can publicize them on your publications.

Brethren, We have been really blessed by the way God used you as defectors to expose these damnable heresies and these expositions have opened our spiritual eyes of understanding in a greater measure and made us to be on the alert whenever these false teachings begin to cross over here.

We have been acquainted with the Coleman thunders in fact that divided our first assembly years ago. Since then we are very sober.

Brethren, I do not know you but I love as my brothers of like precious faith especially for the expositions you people are making. I have definitely no problems with all the expositions…I have only got one question and doubt on your teachings on the seventh seal (7th. Seal) not opened neither, the seven thunders revealed…We believe that the seventh seal was opened and the seven thunders were revealed by the prophet messenger for this day…We are not contending with you brethren but that has been revealed so to us.

We have almost read all your quotes by the seventh messenger that the seven thunders were not revealed over and again and clearly know your stand. But we have questions that have been pondering our minds over and again if so be that the seven thunders were not revealed.

We too have quotes of the very prophet to prove that the seven thunders were revealed and the seventh seal was opened and so all we need is to substantiate and reconcile the set of different quotes, proving the right one. By the help of God we put those two different set of quotes together, prayerfully studied them and the sum what led us to believe that the seven thunders were revealed, and by the words of the prophet Ch. Ages Pg 327 par. 1 -- Pg. 328. (Now this messenger of Mal. 4 and Rev. 10 :7 is going to do two things…He will reveal the mysteries of the seven thunders of Rev. 10, which are the revelation contained in the seven seals (not six ).

Brethren this is our stand and confession, believing that the Prophet messenger has come and fulfill that…Please we are waiting for your responses to these questions, we trust that this relationship will continue and your ministry will continue to be a blessing to us through your books.

Yours in His service Bro. Michael F. Nyuma (Pastor In Charge)."

Many of us are familiar with this name here. His letters appeared in book five and we had quite a discourse. I went over most of these things with this minister brother and yet he does not seem to understand or comprehend, that the seventh seal was not revealed by Brother Branham in 1963. So, he wrote a couple letters, parts of which I have just read. Besides that he compiled, together with other ministers, other questions, about a six or seven page letter, asking questions and making reference to quotations from the message of Brother Branham, to try to justify that the seventh seal was indeed opened in 1963. I have these two letters here; the questions are similar. At one point I told him that I would not be going over that again because I went through it sufficiently before. But then, another letter came and there seemed to be one or two new questions. I felt that because of this brother's attitude, because of his gentleness, I feel that I want to take the time off this evening and bear the patience one more time, that I could express to him, why we believe what we believe, and besides that, since he gave me the liberty to publish these questions and answers in the way that they see it and in the way that I am answering these questions, then I embraced that opportunity, because it may help somebody else. Yes.

It takes divine revelation to understand the Word of God. Unless the Lord reveals His Word to you, you cannot understand the Word of God. So then, we just cannot condemn a man and you just cannot become angry with people because they do not see like you see, but it should help each and every one of us to thank God for what we are seeing, if it is right and if it is true. The Bible says, "Be patient with all men." Yes. "…snatching some out of the fire." Although you heard a lot of these things, I believe that we can more than bear patience this evening to go through some of this, knowing that this subject here on the seventh seal/seven thunders opened or not opened, is one of the biggest controversies in the message, around the world.

So, just a little background; somebody might be here for the first time. Something happened in our age that never happened in human history, and that is, the Bible was revealed; from Genesis to Revelation was revealed. All the mysteries, all the parables, and all the dark sentences throughout the millennias and throughout the ages that were hid from mankind, God opened up the seven seals Book and revealed six seals.

564-2 {301} "He's revealed all the six Seals, but it don't say nothing about the Seventh. And the end time Seal, when it starts, will be absolutely a total secret according to the Bible." (The Seventh Seal 63-0324E).

26-5 "You think that little noise out here in Tucson was something, when He opened the six seals." (Future Home 64-08002).

You will find that in revelation chapter 5, the Book was closed, and in chapter 10, we found an open book in the hand of an Angel. The man that was used to bring forth these mysteries for today from almighty God was none other than a mighty prophet called William Branham, anointed by the Spirit of Elijah. He was prophesied to come in Malachi 4: 5 & 6, before the great burning, before the great destruction of the earth by fire. He did come, he did preach, and the seven seals book was opened by Christ, who is the Lamb and He channelled that revelation down to a man called William Branham, a man that is hated around the world and by the religious world, especially so-called Christians in the form of organizations. Yes, that is true. But, we respect this man, we love him, we adore him; not because we idolize him in any way, but because he was a prophet and because he brought the Word to us. And together with that, many of us were in organizations and when we heard this message we came out, and we are thankful to the Lord that God sent William Branham with the message of deliverance.

In 1963, what happened was seven seals were supposed to be revealed, and then, God used this man and channelled the revelation right down to him on the first seal, second seal, third, fourth, fifth and sixth seal. And from the seven seals book, you can understand this, that he revealed the six seals and when he came to the seventh seal, the Lord revealed to him that, "This is not to be opened at this time. It is for a specific time, and purpose. It is going to happen around the time of the coming of the Lord for the rapture." That is what the Lord revealed. Now, that is plainly recorded in those messages that are now documented in a book called "The Revelation of the Seven Seals", and in that book, from page 567 to 578, all that is recorded is a complete lesson on why the seventh seal is not revealed. There is not one statement anywhere in the seven seals book, where the prophet dealt with the seventh seal proper, to indicate or suggest that the seventh seal is opened. Nowhere! From page 567, right to the end, he specified that the seventh seal was not revealed to him.

At that period of time, 1963 until 1965, while the prophet of God was alive, everybody who believed this message accepted the fact that the seventh seal was not revealed in 1963, and that continued after the death of the prophet right down to 1973; better than ten years. Nobody preached seventh seal/seven thunders. They all accepted that the seventh seal was not revealed by Brother Branham in 1963.

After 1973 there arose two different groups, with two schools of thought; one faction started saying that the seventh seal and seven thunders, which is the same revelation, were revealed by Brother Branham, and then, some people stayed with the original teaching, the original school of thought, which said that it is not opened. We as believers belong to the first school of thought, which Brother Branham belonged to, and up to this time, up to this date that I am preaching this, we still believe that the seventh seal/seven thunders was not opened in 1963 by Brother Branham, but, we do believe that it will be broken to the public, and the Lord will vindicate that when it takes place. (Exposition Book 8 outlined eight major identifications of that ministry).

Now, from 1973 right down to 2003, thirty years ago, great contentions arose, worldwide, and now we have an international conflict on whether the seventh seal is opened or not opened. So, the questions that come in from time to time, we try to answer them and we try to be very understanding, because people were indoctrinated by the second school of thought, worldwide, to believe that the seven thunders was indeed revealed by Brother Branham in 1963.

It happened (from the testimony of Brother Michael) that the message came to Sierra Leone in 1990 and was established after 1996 and started to get stronger. Now, we could very well understand that since 1973 to 2003 is thirty long years, and these men who arose bringing forth that heresy, went around the world and sowed that seed, that the seventh seal is opened and the seven thunders is revealed, and besides that, they went on to tell them what is the revelation of the seventh seal and seven thunders, according to their own interpretation. So, we stayed very quiet for many years and then the Lord moved in a supernatural way and it will take too long to tell you what brought about the Exposition of Damnable Heresies, but, suffice it to be said that it was divinely led of the Lord, and it's also going into the entire world.

Now, book five was written with the intention to help curb this heresy and help people understand the truth about the seventh seal. And in book five under the title of "Seventh Seal/Seven Thunders - Two Schools of Thought", this went out, and it has brought great deliverance unto many people in Africa, India, in the Philippines and some of them in Europe. Those who once preached this heresy no longer preach it and thank God for deliverance from such a heresy.

Now, everybody do not understand alike, and though this teaching that the seventh seal/ seven thunders was revealed in 1963, is a heresy, this brother here, I am going to answer these questions for him and his ministers and who ever will read this or hear the tapes. I am not dealing with him here as a heretic. I deal with him as a friend that got mixed up in heresy. Now, a heresy is a heresy, and though you are a child of God, you could be wrapped up in a heresy, and that is where we came from. We came from organizations and we were sitting under heresies. We were sitting under heretics, and in due time the Lord led us to truth.

So, just the same as you sat in organizations, there are people today, brethren, who fully believe Brother Branham and believe his message and they are sitting under heresy, but yet are elected of God. They are children of God. Now, we do not brand them as seeds of the serpent because they believe thus. No, but we try to show that anybody that will pervert the message of the prophet is a heretic, and a heresy is a heresy. It does not matter if a child of God believes it or a seed of the serpent believes it. That does not change it from being a heresy. So, the fact is that I am dealing with these questions here against a heresy that I believe with a true conviction in my heart, has many of God's children bounded around the world.

We believe firmly that anybody that will say that the seventh seal was revealed in 1963 is wrong, and to propagate such a doctrine is heresy. That doctrine is heresy. I am not dealing with this brother as a heretic. I am dealing with him as a friend. And we have proven ourselves as friends to this brother, even though he did not see as we see, we were touched with the feelings of his infirmities, and do whatever we can to help him with his sickness. I notice in this brother, he has a very nice attitude; his questions are placed rightly, and he asked with a desire to know. Only God can judge his sincerity. So, these questions, I will try to answer in order to help him and others that will hear these tapes.

First of all, I want to lay emphasis that this is an international controversy, of whether the seventh seal is opened or not opened. There is hardly any other controversy on the first six seals. Almost everybody around the world in the message believe the first six seals as they were preached, except one or two terrible fanatics, who changed some of these things to suit their heresy. But, generally, everybody believe from the first to sixth seal, as the prophet taught them. So, the controversy is on the seventh seal.

I will have you to understand, if you did not comprehend that before, or somebody for the first time is hearing this, that the seventh seal and the seven thunders are one and the same. It is called the seventh seal in Revelation 8:1, and it says, "And there was silence in heaven when the seventh seal was opened." Nobody understood what that silent meant, but through inspiration of the prophet called William Branham, he brought to our understanding that it was the seven thunders, because the seven thunders was not written in the scriptures. He concluded that the seventh seal and seven thunders are the same revelation and holds the coming of the Lord the second time. That was far as he went.

Now, we believe and we can sufficiently prove that the seventh seal was not revealed by Brother Branham in 1963, and I want to lay that foundation right now for our beliefs, and this is taken from the seven seals book, page 567. Now, this is the declaration here of the prophet of God when he came to the seventh seal.

567 (1) "Now, notice. So help me, by God I tell the truth, that these are spiritually discerned to me (See?), discerned by the Holy Spirit. And by every one of them, has identified his place in the Bible. Now, what this great secret is that lays beneath this Seal, I do not know. I don't know it. I couldn't make it out. I couldn't tell it, just what it said. But I know that it was them seven thunders uttering themselves right close together, just banging seven different times, and it unfolded into something else that I seen. Then when I seen that, I looked for the interpretation that flew across there, and I couldn't make it out. That's exactly right, friend. See? The hour isn't quite yet for it, but it's moving into that cycle. See? It's coming up close. So the thing for you to do is to remember that I speak to you in the Name of the Lord: Be prepared, for you don't know what time something can happen.

Now, when that gets on tape, which it is, that'll probably send ten thousand of my friends away from me, 'cause they're going to say that Brother Branham's trying to put himself and make himself a servant, or a prophet, or something before God. Let me tell you, my brethren, that is an error. I'm only telling you what I seen and what has been told to me, and now, you do whatever you want to. I don't know who's going to-what is going to take place. I do not know. I just know that those seven thunders holds that mystery, that heavens was quieted. (Everybody understand?)

It may be time. It may be the hour now, that this great person that we're expecting to rise on the scene may rise on the scene. Maybe this ministry that I have tried to take people back to the Word has laid a foundation; and if it has, I'll be leaving you for good. There won't be two of us here at the same time. See? If it is, he will increase, I'll decrease. I don't know. But I have been privileged by God to look and see what it was--unfold to that much. Now, that is the truth." (Page 567 Seals Book).

Upon those quotations and upon the scriptures we stand. Nobody can show you within those pages of the seals from 567 to 578, when Brother Branham dealt with the seventh seal proper and seven thunders, where Brother Branham ever indicated that the seventh seal is opened and the seven thunders revealed. Nobody can show that. This here, that I just read, is the conclusion of the prophet on the seventh seal in 1963, regardless of what he said before, what he suggested and what he expected before. This was the conclusion of William Branham concerning the seventh seal.

I will have you to understand that a preacher or a prophet could look forward for many things: revelations and promises to be fulfilled in his lifetime, with all sincerity and all honesty and while he looks for such fulfilment of those promises, he can voice his opinion, he can voice his expectations and he can speak by faith, very positively, and then, as he goes along and understands better, then one day he can come to that conclusion or never come to that conclusion that, "I won't see that", or "It is not for me." Now, this is what happened to Brother Branham, and it has become a stumbling block for a lot of people in the message.

Now, I am expecting the outpouring of the Holy Spirit and you are expecting the outpouring of the Holy Sprit. Each one of us expects to be a candidate to receive that power. We expect to be alive. Brothers and sisters, while we expect that and believe that with all faith and look forward for it, the Lord's will must be done. He may put you to sleep tonight, and he may put me to sleep tonight. His will be done. And this is what happened in the ministry of Brother Branham. Brother Branham spoke positively throughout his ministry with great expectations for the revealing of the seven thunders, that is, before1963, and even in the seals book. He was expecting that, up to the time of his departure. As the time went on, in 1963, when he came to the subject of the seventh seal, and seven thunders, Brother Branham concluded explicitly, in the seven seals book, in so many words, that we just read, that, "The seventh seal was not revealed to me." That was not sufficient he said, "I don't know it. I am telling you the truth." He further said that this might turn ten thousands of my friends against me, he said, "…but I just told you the truth. You do whatever you want with it." He further laid some more emphasis, and said that, "The time is not yet. It is going to be about the time of the coming of the Lord." Those three quotations I read to you are from the seals book, page 567.

Now, I took these facts to prove that the seventh seal was not revealed in 1963, and we have here in a book, forty different facts, just from the seals book alone, to prove that the seventh seal was not revealed to Brother Branham, leaving out what was said on "Questions and Answers", and even on "Sirs Is This The Time." If we were to put a numbering on those, that will bring us to fifty or sixty different quotations where the prophet explained that the seven thunders was not revealed. We are hanging our souls upon the conclusion of Brother Branham. This is where Brother Branham concluded concerning the seventh seal, that the seventh seal was not revealed and the seven thunders was not revealed, and to put more weight upon that, from 1963 Brother Branham was consistent in preaching the same revelation that the seventh seal was not revealed, and up to 1965 he was still saying the same thing, that it was not revealed. Now, I believe that anybody who is sincere and honest, when they look at the conclusion of 1963, go on to 1964 and come down to 1965, and the prophet is still saying that he is expecting the revelation of the seven thunders and he is hoping to find a place to preach it, they ought to be honest to take the prophet at his word. Take the messenger at his word.

So, from 1963 Brother Branham was consistent in his understanding of the seventh seal/seven thunders, that "It was not revealed; the Lord held back this revelation of the seventh seal." I will put some weight on that now. I am saying from 1963 Brother Branham was consistent in saying that the seventh seal was not revealed. I quote:

"This Book's already opened (That's right) just waiting for the Seventh Seal to be identified with the coming of Christ. (What shall I do with Jesus 24/11/63)." That is November 1963.

"That Seventh Seal hasn't opened yet, you know; that's His coming." (Feast of the Trumpets 19/7/64). That is 1964.

"You think that little noise out here in Tucson was something, when He opened the six seals, that shook the country around about and caused the talk, wait till this earth receives her baptism!" (Future Home 2/8/64).

"The seventh angel was to open the six-seal mystery. It's all to be gathered up in the Son of man, His fullness of time has come to the Fullness of His Word to manifest the fullness of His Body." (Proving His Word 16/8/64).

"Now, in doing this, I have come here for the purpose of teaching the last vials, last seven vials, and the last seven trumpets, and the last seven thunders of the Book of Revelations, tying them together in this hour that we're now living to follow the opening of the Seven Seals, the Seven Church Ages. So we couldn't get room to do it." (God of this evil age 1/8/65).

"Just wait till we get in to open those plagues and seals and them seven thunders. Watch what takes place. Oh, brother, you better get to Goshen while there's time to get to Goshen. Don't pay any attention to this outside." (Knoweth it not 15/8/65).

This is August 1965. Brother Branham was still waiting for the revelation of the seven thunders. Now, I do not see any contradiction. Brother Branham was consistent with the revelation that God gave to him at the opening of the seals in 1963 and he kept that revelation right down to his departure. All right, everybody kept with the same consistency from 1966-1973. Everybody was saying what the prophet said. I was around. I have about thirty six years of history, around the message. Others were around that time. Not one whisper, from any lip that the seventh seal is opened. Some, later on, did try to say certain things like that, and they were shut up immediately. And we went on with that doctrine, from that time on with the same consistency.

Now, I can understand these brethren overseas and their position, that they heard this heresy after many years, that the seventh seal is revealed, and it came by way of New York from a man named Joseph Coleman, who was one of the first ones who arose and said the seven thunders are revealed.

Now, it would be many years after that it is going to Sierra Leone in 1990. Now, that heresy sent forth a seed of discrepancy, concerning the seventh seal and seven thunders, worldwide, and many people who now project that the seventh seal is revealed and the seven thunders are revealed, they got it from somebody who listened to that heresy. Although they are against Mr. Coleman's teachings, because his ministry bore fruits of unholiness-terrible fruits of unholiness, that destroyed the ABC's of the message and changed every elementary teaching of the message as far as morality is concerned, they do not understand that the thunders they preach and the seventh seal revelation that they claim still has its roots in Coleman's doctrine, and since the roots are embedded into Coleman's doctrine, certain things got stuck in their heads, that although they read the quotations-forty quotations, fifty quotations, and they read where the prophet of God keeps on saying, "It is not revealed. I am waiting for it. Seventh seal is not revealed. I opened six seals", that seed of discrepancy is in the hearts of the people and they cannot see how on earth that the seventh seal is not revealed.

So now, like this brother said, "I am not denying that the prophet of God said the seventh seal is not revealed, but he also said that it was revealed."

My beloved, there is not one place where brother Branham said that the seventh seal was revealed. Not one quotation, where brother Branham said directly that the seventh seal was revealed. Certain questions came to him concerning the thunders, and it seemed that Brother Branham is saying that the seven thunders is revealed, but never explained nothing. How can a man hang his soul upon such a thing?

All right, now this will be my approach and let this be a lesson to our ministers here in answering these questions. Now, this brother, I had a wonderful discourse with him, together with that, book five is in his hands. He read it and yet does not understand and see that the seventh seal is not revealed. So, it brought up these questions and in his compilation of six pages, there are multiple references to the seals and other places to try to prove that the seventh seal is revealed. So, he is seeing throughout the message that the seventh seal is revealed. As much as we said on this book, and as much as I had written to him, he could only understand that the seventh seal is revealed. Jesus said, "Take heed how you hear." Now, how you hear is how you will see. Now, I want to first prove to you, and to help our ministers to understand in answering questions and dealing with controversies. You first have to understand from what conception a person is asking their multitude of questions. You can answer a thousand questions, and if you don't hit that conception that is actually causing the person to ask those questions, then you will just be cutting off the branches, but the root is still there.

Now, the problem here with this and all who believe this...All these questions are coming from a certain conception. I will first deal with the conception. There is a certain conception that gave rise to all of these questions and that is causing him to read book five and can't understand it. It got stuck in his head that "It is opened." Although he is reading there where the prophet said, "It is not opened", he is seeing that "It is opened." It is a certain conception. And with all respect to my brother and to the ministers there, who compiled these questions, I want to prove to you that your understanding of the seventh seal being opened is yet hinged on Coleman's doctrine, and Coleman's doctrine is a heresy. And although you may not acknowledge Coleman as a servant of God, and be mad with how he perverts the message, that seed, no doubt, travelled down to you by others whom you associated with, who brought the message to you, and on an account of that your understanding and belief are yet rooted in Coleman's doctrine.

So, I have chosen to answer these questions and go over these things again because I will grab the opportunity to hit that conception, and if this does not help you then our discussion is closed, and you will have to go and pray, asking the Lord to reveal this thing to you, and you'd better understand quickly. I fully declare here that the seventh seal was not revealed by Brother Branham in 1963, and I fully declare that the seven thunders was not revealed by Brother Branham in 1963, 1964 or 1965, and I stand in defense of that and will prove that as we go along. Misconception; let us deal with that just a little while. I have two letters here; I will be back and forward.

Greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ our soon coming king. Thank you for all your recent emails, and your past questioners. I am delighted, to report to you that by his grace, I have completed the answers to your questions, which were sent to me and the ministers at Bethel 2003. I am sending you an original copy, you are free to share it with your panel of ministers who helped to put these questions together. This work comprises my final answers to you on the subject seventh seal/seven thunders, revealed or not revealed.

I apologize for the delay; I wanted to fulfill your request in presenting to you my answers in a table form. In several of your letters, the same questions were repeated. I had to set them in order. I also had to consider at the same time, format for publication, as you so generously allowed me that liberty. Because of the nature of this subject being sensitive and a most popular controversy, I chose to answer these questions in a format of preaching and teaching, at my home church Bethel, rather than a written work. I feel more confident when I establish truth under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. It took additional time, to document these questions and answers, bearing in mind that it must become a part of our latest book entitled "Exposition of Damnable heresies Questions and Answers - controversies 7th seal/7 thunders/ Godhead/Deity Heresy". But by his grace it is ready to come to you. It involved some hard labours, but working with the expectations that it would be a blessing to many message Believers, and hoping and trusting that it will be of edification to you and the ministers, who compiled these questions. This gave me the patience and zeal to have this portion of the general manuscript completed.

I do apologize for the great boldness of speech under inspiration, in clarification of certain truths, concerning this vital subject. I mean no offence, but only to represent the message, in its purity.

Pastor Michael, I take the liberty to thank you most heartily for your last email, expressing your requests for me to come to Africa, and officiate at your wedding ceremony. I do appreciate this honourable invitation, which expresses our mutual love and fellowship as ministers, though we have differences on the subject of seventh seal/Seven thunders opened or not opened. I trust that this difference would be historical after you consider the scriptural answers which the Lord has given to your questions. However, it is regrettable that I am unable to fulfill this most wonderful and urgent request, being a prisoner of the Lord without His leading to go to Africa or India. Nevertheless, I would like to make financial contributions to this most honourable union, in November 14th 2003. Thank you for the photos, you are quite a handsome brother, and I think that the Lord has given to you a most beautiful companion. In my love for the nations and races of the world, black is beautiful, even like the other flowers of God's nations and races. I must close for now, with best wishes and God's blessings upon your marriage and to you, the ministers and saints in that region. Peace be multiplied unto thee. We hope and trust, with all our hearts, to live in the New world as fellow citizens in the kingdom of Christ, even so, Lord Jesus, take up thy sceptre, rule and reign with your saints. Amen!
Your servant for Christ sake
Dalton Bruce

NB: I received your letter dated 2nd July 2003, requesting to hold back the answers to your compilation of questions until I receive a book from another minister on the subject, so I can answer both. It is regrettable that I cannot afford any delay with book 9, which includes the answers to your questions, as many around the world are anxiously awaiting this book. However, if it is convenient, I can answer the author personally, if there is something new that you have not presented to me concerning seventh seal/seven thunders. Thank you for your understanding.        Brother Bruce.

Question #1: "Why was the visitation of the angelic being to Brother Branham on Mount Sunset and what was the mission of those angelic beings (Theophanies of the seven church messengers)?"

ANSWER: Let us deal with that just a little. Brother, what you have in bracket here as something on the side, because you think that is an established doctrine with you and others and is fully accepted no doubt around the world. That the seven angels who came to brother Branham on Mount Sunset and lifted him up into the sky twenty-six miles high in the formation of a cloud were the theophanies of the seven church age messengers is a heresy.

This conception with others which I will point out has become the blinding factor that you cannot understand that the seventh seal was not opened by Brother Branham. I will deal with your little statement in bracket before I come to your question. You are believing that the seven angles are the seven theophanies of the seven church age messengers. That will mean Paul, Irenaeus, Martin, Columbia, Luther, Wesley and also Brother Branham. Now, my precious brother, this is gross error. This is gross error and it has formed a seed of delusion. And this is becoming popular around the world, that the seven angles that picked up brother Branham were theophanies. I want to state here scripturally and by the message of brother Branham that theophanies are not angels. Then if I could disprove this by the word of God and the quotations of brother Branham, I call you to repentance, because the foundation of your understanding is wrong. Theopanies are not angels; absolutely not. Check in your Bibles and you will see that angles have wings and theophanies don't have any. And the seven angles that came down to earth had wings, and they flew from eternity in a bat of an eye and swooped brother Branham from off the earth and carried him twenty-six miles up into the air. That is only an observation from scriptures that angels, heavenly beings, have wings. Theopanies don't have wings. That is why whenever God appears in a theophany form He has no wings. Now, man is so much more superior than angels, that angles need wings for their mobilisation, but man doesn't need any. An angel has to flap his wings, to move, but the Lord, He just ascended into the heavens, and He kept on going without any wings whatsoever, into the seventh heaven.

All right, I go to the scripture to prove that men are not angels. I am going to prove from the scripture that angles and sons of God are different beings all entirely:

"God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they". (Hebrews 1:1-4).

The scripture is plainly dividing here that the son is greater than the angels. And unto the son he said, sit upon my right hand, and the Lord made the son so much better than the angels. That is the scripture that the son is made better than the angles, and he never spoke to an angel at anytime to sit upon His right hand. If our theophanies are angels, then God made a mistake when he told Jesus to sit upon his right hand, because he was an angel. But Jesus is not an angel. No, he was a son. Jesus has an angel, but He is not an angel. Likewise the seven Church Ages Messengers are not heavenly, winged angels.

"But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?" (Hebrews 1:13-14).

My Bible is telling me that an angel is a servant of God and the son is the theophany.

Quote: "Who has the most power before god? What is an angel? An angel is a servant. That's right? They're His servants. What are you? His son and daughter. Who has the most power in Heaven, then, a sinner that's been saved by grace, or an archangel that's standing by His right side? The sinner, that's been saved by grace, has more authority in Heaven than the archangel that stood by his side, without sin, cause he's a son. Son has more authority than a servant, of course." (Kinsman Redeemer page 24-Oct 2nd 1960).

The prophet of God is hereby taking a repentant sinner, and comparing him with an archangel in the heavens, and saying that this repentant sinner has more power than the archangel in the heaven. He is differentiating the two beings, showing you that the son is different, and an angel is a different creature. The son is higher, greater and has more authority than the angel. All right, hear this friend. And if this don't cure you then nothing will.

Quote: "You will never be an angel. God made Angels, but God made man." (Hebrews Book 1957, chap 5-6, page 175).

That is sufficient for me. You will never be an angel. God made angels and he made man. Therefore, the messengers, seven church age messengers will never be angels. They will never be angels. They will be man. And if you take the seven angels, who picked up Brother Branham, and are calling them the theophanies, right there you make them man. You will never be an angel, you will be man, and angels will be your servants. Let me put another weight on that. Maybe you want to hear where Brother Branham said angels are not theophanies. Alright, let us hear it.

Quote: "Watch that angel now. Watch what he did now we all know beyond any mistake that was not an angel. It was God himself. It was a theophany. Abraham called him Elohim, God. (Conference with God - 1960).

Angels are not theophanies, Brother Mike. So, the seven angels that came down from heaven and picked up brother Branham are not theophanies. This conception is satanic. It's a heresy, a dogma and a creed that was exported to your country, and has blighted a lot of people, around the world.

Quote: "Before the foundation were we spirits then, No, we were not even nothing then. We were only figurative in his mind. In the beginning when God made man in his image he made him a theophany". (Q. & A. 1959)

There we are. So your conception my brother, is wrong according to the scripture. You say, "Why did you make that so strong?" Because this is a foundational wrong conception.

It says that each one of those angels held a seal, and if each one of the angels was a theophany of the church age messenger then each church age messenger was holding a thunder, since this doctrine says that the seven seals are the seven thunders. This is the heresy.

According to this doctrine and heresy, if the angels are theophanies then a thunder belongs to each church age messenger, which is a lie of the devil. My brother Mike, and who ever will hear this message, this is Coleman's doctrine. Coleman's doctrine started in 1973 in New York. He said, each church age messenger had a thunder, and the seven messages of the seven church ages were the seven lived voices, and taking the seven messages of the seven church ages he made the seven messages of the seven church ages the seven thunders, also that the seven thunders are the seven virtues. And this is the same doctrine you are projecting to me, except for "seven thunders-seven virtues". That is why you asked me these questions, because you have that certain conception that each messenger is a theophany, each had a seal, and each messenger had a thunder, which is not so.

I will prove that wrong right here in Brother Branham's quotations. If each one of the messengers through out the church age held a thunder, then brother Branham was wrong when he said the one on top, which is the seventh flying angel, held the seventh seal, which is the seven thunders. Brother Branham never said that those angels held the seven thunders. Now my admonishment is to turn loose from such a heresy. The bible is plain and the quotation is explicitly clear that an angel is not a theophany. Because of that dogma, that was formulated over in New York, they preach that the seven thunders are the seven lived voices of the seven church ages. In other words, Mr. Coleman's doctrine says that the seven thunders are the seven messages of the seven church ages. All right, let me prove to you that it's a lie.

Now when brother Branham came to the seventh seal if that was so, won't he say that, because he had already preached the seven church ages in 1960. Wouldn't brother Branham have that knowledge to say, "Now brethren, the seven thunders is the seven voices of the church ages?" He would have had that knowledge. To show that that is a lie, when the prophet came to that subject, he said, "I don't know." He was humble enough. And anybody that pretends to know is proud enough to make a heresy. The prophet of God humbled himself as a little child and never guessed at the seven thunders nor seventh seal to say it is the seven live voices of the seven church ages.

Brother Mike, there is not one quotation nowhere in brother Branham's message to suggest that the seven angels that came down from heaven were seven theophanies of the seven church age messengers. You cannot produce one quotation. You cannot bring one quotation to even suggest something like that. Then this heresy travelled down to you from somewhere and you have accepted that, and it is affecting your vision. So there is a certain interpretation here in your mind that is causing you not to read what the prophet of God said with an open heart. So, I declare this doctrine that says that the seven angels that came down to earth with the seven seals are the seven theophanies or spiritual bodies of the seven church age messengers, to be heresy. One heresy leads to the next. One dogma leads to the next.

The Catholic Church started with a deed and look at her condition today. So one heresy leads to the next. With this conception in mind that the seven voices of the seven church ages are the seven thunders, all your questions that you are asking are within the framework of that conception. I am dealing with your conception to prove that it is wrong.

Now if I am seeing like you, I am going to give you the answer that the seven theophanies brought the seven thunders, and I will be in error. And that is the mission that you are seeing. That is why you are asking me, "What is the mission of the seven angels, which were the theophanies of the messengers" because in your conception, you think that each theophany had a thunder? I've already proven that those angels were not theophanies. No sir! So your doctrine cannot be right. Okay. I will answer your question now according to the scripture and according to the message.

Question #2: "What was the mission of those seven angels that came to the earth?"

ANSWER: First of all they were not the theophanies of the seven church age messengers. They had a special mission, and the special mission was that each one of them had a seal.

560-1 {268} Now, have you noticed the mysterious parts of this week?... it has been the Angels of the Lord…And did you notice that one Angel, I said in there, was a strange Angel? He looked more to me than any of the rest of them…The one with the Seventh Seal." (The Seventh Seal 63-0324e).

578-1 {405} "…one Angel was very notable to me. The rest of them just seemed ordinarily…And the Angels took me into that pyramid of themselves, the mysteries of God known only to them. And now, they with the messengers that come to interpret that pyramid or that message of the secret of these Seven Seals which lays with inside the pyramid. Now, the Angel was to my left, would really be the last, or seventh Angel, if we would count them from left to right…so that would be the last angel's message: very notable…Now, that is this Seventh Seal. It's still is a notable thing. And we don't know what it is as yet, because it's not permitted to be broken." (The Seventh Seal 63-0324e).

The mission of those seven angels were to each reveal a seal, and that was manifested when brother Branham preached the first seal, the second seal, the third seal, the fourth seal, the fifth seal and the sixth seal. And then when Brother Branham asked the next angel for the revelation of the seventh seal, he took the revelation and flew eastward with it. So the missions of the seven angels were concerning the seals. The first six angels released their seals and the one with the seventh seal flew away with it, because the time was not yet. And he gave brother Branham a hope that the time is going to come and it will be revealed later. That does not change the mission of the seventh angel. It does not change the mission of the seven angels. Their mission was to bring the seals, but six seal was given and the last one was not given

But it will be given one day, and when it is given then the mission of the seven angels are completed. Very simple like that. That does not defeat the mission. It does not defeat the mission of the seven angels. It is a time factor that is involved here; it is a time period that is involved here. Six angels have already fulfilled their mission, and the last one held his seal, because the time was not right. According to what brother Branham said. The mission will be accomplished. Yes sir. It will be broken to the public.

"There it's in the magazine. Told months before it happened. Seven Angels come down, and said the complete revelation of the six-seal mystery of God would be unfolded. And there it was just exactly like He said, predicted before it happened." (Influence 63-0803e).

"The seven thunders in heaven will unfold this mystery. It'll be right at the coming of Christ, because Christ said no one knew when He would return. No wonder, it wasn't even written. Angels don't know it; nobody knows when He's coming. But there'll be seven voices of these thunders that will reveal the great revelation at that time. So I believe, if we don't know it, and it won't be known till that time, but it will be revealed in that day, in the hour that it's supposed to be revealed in…Here now, we find that the Sixth Seal has been opened to us; we see it, and we know that this Seventh Seal cannot be broke to the public until that hour arrives." (The Seventh.Seal. 63-0324e).

Mike, let me tell you this, the seven angels' mission was not to bring the seven thunders. The first angel was to bring the first seal, the second, second seal, third, third seal, fourth, fourth seal, fifth, fifth seal, sixth six seal, and the seventh flying angel held the seventh seal, and he flew away with it towards the east. Alright. Hold a minute here. If our brother is making all these angels seven theophanies, then the seventh angel is supposed to be the theophany of Brother Branham according to their teaching. And I want you to know that's a dogma and heresy around the world. Right now I am acquainted with that heresy that says that Brother Branham's theophany was the seventh angel on top. And you know what tied them up because there were seven flying angels and Brother Branham was the seventh angel. Now they want to think that is revelation 10:7. Nonsense that was not Brother Branham, friend. I will tell you who he is, that one on top was Christ. Yes. It was Christ. Yes. And to prove to you that it was Christ, the angel on top held the seventh seal. How many knows the seventh seal is the seven thunders? Who ever held the seven thunders, held the seventh seal. And out of the mouth of Revelation 10:1, who stood upon land and sea, rolled the thunders out of his mouth. And the bible called him and angel not a theophany. "And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud… and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices." (Revelation 10:1-3). The one that held the seventh seal in the heavens was the one upon the earth that broadcast the thunders. So it could not be the theophany of Brother Branham. It was Christ, the covenant Angel, and the heavenly Angel had the seven thunders coming out of his mouth, not the seven angels of the church ages nor the 7th angel to the church ages (the prophet). Both angels are two separate messengers who are to be on earth at the same time; one an earthly angel and the other a heavenly.

74-2 {40} "And when the Seals are broke and the mystery is revealed, down comes the Angel, the Messenger, Christ, setting His foot upon the land and upon the sea with a rainbow over His head. Now remember, this seventh angel is on earth at the time of this coming." (Breach 17/3/63).

45-7 123 "Now, listen. This Angel come down from heaven. See, the other seven angels of the seven churches was earthly messengers, but this Angel... All the message is finished. The seventh angel winds up the whole thing. And this Angel comes, not to the earth; He isn't a man from the earth as the messengers to the church ages; that's finished. But this Angel brings the next announcement. And a angel means a messenger. And He comes down from heaven clothed in that Pillar of Light, cloud, with a rainbow over His head. And a rainbow is a covenant. It was Christ, with one foot on land and one on the sea, and swore that time will be no more." (Sirs is this the time? 30/12/62).

That is why Brother Branham did not get the revelation of the seventh seal or seven thunders, because it was not the earthly messenger's ministry to get that. It was the heavenly Angel's ministry to broadcast that seventh seal or seven thunders, about the time of the rapture.

Come on Brother Mike, I have already defeated this heresy which says that the seven angels are the theophanies of the seven church age messengers. It is defeated by the word of God, and by the message of Brother Branham. Turn loose of that. You have gone wrong already. You have the wrong foundation. Yes. Tear it down. Yes sir. This is what they used here to think that the seven church age messages are the seven thunders. It is not. The church age messages are different from the seven thunders. If these angels were the seven theophanies of the seven church age messengers, then in their age each one of them preached a thunder. What is the thunders? The thunders is the coming of the Lord. Then they would have to have had the revelation of the second coming of the Lord, which is dumb. Luther preached justification, Wesley preached sanctification, and all the other messengers preached whatever the Lord revealed to them, but these seven angels that came down from heaven had to do with the seals, not the church age messages; the seals. Their job was the seals. And the job of the seven earthly messengers was to handle the word of God for the seven church ages. That is why you never hear Paul preaching seven thunders. He was the first messenger. Never said one word about the thunders. I have Ireaneus' books: "Ireaneus books against heresies"; volume, upon volumes. Not one word about thunders. Show me in Martin Luther's book thunders; show me in Wesley book thunders. No, you are misled friend. You are mixing up two things my friend. You are mixing seven church ages revelation with the opening of the seals. These seven angels, which are flying angels, had to do with the seals. The seven earthly messengers had to do with the teaching to the church. All right. Let us get your next question. It is within the framework of the wrong conceptions. I will answer it.

Question #3: "If only six of the seals were opened, which you claim, who then will open the seventh seal apart from a major prophet?"

ANSWER: it is not what I claim. It's the prophet.

"You think that little noise out here in Tucson was something, when He opened the six seals, that shook the country around about and caused the talk, wait till this earth receives her baptism!" (Future Home 2/8/64).

You are crossing your bridges before you reach them friend. Don't cross your bridges before you reach them, you will break your legs. Now a prophet prophesied one time, a virgin shall conceive and bring forth a child. If you were down there Mike, you couldn't ask who will bring forth the baby. No you had to wait until it was manifested. That promise was fulfilled eight hundred years after it was broadcast, by Isaiah, the prophet. "…Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." (Isaiah 7:14). That settled the case. God is his own interpreter. When the promise is fulfilled, you have seen the manifested interpretation.

Brother Branham himself said "I don't know who". I am answering according to the message. Brother Branham said, "I don't know who".

567 (3) I'm only telling you what I seen and what has been told to me, and now, you do whatever you want to. I don't know who's going to-what is going to take place. I do not know. I just know that those seven thunders holds that mystery, that heavens was quieted. (Everybody understand?)" (Seventh Seal 24/3/1963).

That settles it for me. It is not my business to chase my head. It is my business, to pray, "Lord, when it does happen, give me ears to hear and eyes to see, what I'm supposed to see." So the answer to this question my brother is that I am not going to cross my bridges, before I meet them. God has a program; his program is laid out in the word of God by his predestinated plan and will. Then page 458-461 brother Branham warned us, he said, "God has a program for this seven seal." I am answering this question here by saying that God has a program, for opening the seventh seal. It will be broken to the public just like the Lord said it. He had a program to bring forth that child through that virgin, and when Isaiah prophesied that, you could have gone to Isaiah and ask, "Who is the woman?" "I don't know. I can only prophecy. I don't know the woman." Such would be his answer. So now don't cross your bridges before you reach them friend. God has a program. The prophet warned that if you try to guess at this thing you are going to mess up the program of God, and you will wine yourself off the beaten track and away from the real thing; and that is what thousands have done around the world. They tried to figure out the revelation of the seventh seal and they are messing up the program of God. So it is not my place to say "who and what." It will be broken to the public one day. The prophet of God said that when it starts it will start in secret somewhere. The seventh seal holds the coming of the Lord. Not the seven church age messages. It holds the coming of the Lord, and it will be broken to the public one day, and when it is broken, he said it will be identified. Book eight, Exposition Of Damnable Heresies - eight identifications Of Seven Thunders Ministry versus impersonators, will help to identify that ministry, and also expose all impersonators. So how the Lord does that, it is His business. Give me eyes to see and ears to hear Lord when it happens.

Question #4: "What then was the ministry of Brother Branham and what fulfillment does Revelation 10:7 have to this generation in line with brother Branham ministry."

ANSWER: Again, this question is based and it is within the framework, of a certain misconception. Now, you see, the thoughts are flowing here now that the ministry of brother Branham was to bring all the messages from the seven church ages, and bundle it together in the end time, and that is the thunders. And if he did not do that then what is his ministry? That is a misconception. Let me tell you what he says that his ministry was. Get ready Brother Mike:

"The seventh angel was to open the six-seal mystery." (Proving His Word 16/8/1964).

This is the question answered here. The fulfillment of Revelation 10:7 is fully declared by Brother Branham; the seventh angel was to open the six-seal mystery. That closes the case. How many seals were opened down in Jeffersonville?

576 (5) Now, we have in the completion here now, by the grace of God, all the mysteries of the six Seals that's been sealed up, and we understand and know here that the Seventh Seal is not to be known to the public. (Seventh Seal 25/3/63).

"You think that little noise out here in Tucson was something, when He opened the six seals." (Future Home 2/8/64).

Brother Branham is declaring the mission of Revelation 10:7. He simply said, "It was to open the six-seal mystery."

Now, you are thinking that all the mysteries of the seven church ages, makes up the seven thunders. That is why you asked this question. That is Coleman's doctrine. That is a lie of the devil. You have your roots in Coleman's doctrine, although you do not stand for his principles. You need to turn loose from that heresy. So now, do you know why he quoted Revelation 10:7 here? Because in the days of the voice of the seven angels when he shall begin to sound the mysteries of God should be finished. So now since Revelation 10: 7 is going to reveal all the mysteries, "that makes the seven thunders." So in the mind of my brother, "all the mysteries that the prophet revealed are the seven thunders." That is Coleman's doctrine.

"And in the days of the voice of the seventh angel all this mystery that's written within should be finished."…After it's all done completed, then these seven thunder voices is the only thing that is stuck to the Book, that's not revealed. It's not even written in the Book." (Sirs is this the time 30/12/63)

All the mysteries that brother Branham revealed are not the seven thunders. Brother Branham fully declared that the seven thunders is the coming of the Lord, not the mysteries of the seven church ages. It is the coming of the Lord that was hidden. The prophet of God said:

"Jesus, when He was on earth, they wanted to know when He would come. He said, "Even the Son Himself don't know when it's going to happen." See, God has this all to Himself. It's a secret. And that's the reason there was silence in heaven for a space of a half hour. And Seven Thunders uttered their voices, and John was even forbidden to write it (See?)--the coming of the Lord. That's one thing He hasn't revealed yet, of how He will come, and when He will come. (Christ is the mystery 28/7/63).

The seven thunders do not belong to the church ages, because it's the coming of the Lord, and the church ages knew nothing about the second coming of the Lord. It was not preached in the middle ages. It was a hidden mystery under the seventh seal and seven thunders. That's the coming of the Lord. That's your thunders. You are putting it in the wrong place.

"What was the ministry of Revelation 10:7, to this generation?" The ministry of brother Branham to this generation was to be Elijah the prophet, to bring a message of restoration, and to introduce the seventh seal. That was his mission. The mission of brother Branham was to make a way for the seventh seal. The seventh seal is the coming of the Lord, and he opened six seals in order to make a way for the seventh seal to be revealed, which held the coming of the Lord. That is the consistency of the scripture. A type of John the Baptist, he was to preach up to a certain point, until he made a way for the coming of the Lord. The mission of Brother Branham was fully declared at the Ohio River in 1933. His message was to forerun the coming of the Lord. He was a John the Baptist; his mission came up to the place of opening six seals, and the seventh seal held the coming of the Lord, and he made the way for the opening of the seventh seal, which is to be broken to the public in its right time, at the right place and amongst the right people. The people to believe that are already born on the earth; a predestinated bunch of people. We believe that and accept that.

The ministry of brother Branham was to be Elijah the prophet, to gather all the mysteries from the ages, from Genesis right up to the present time, and to bring all those mysteries together. And not only the mysteries that were in the past ages, but those mysteries that were in the Bible that none of the prophets understood. And if you read your scripture properly, you are going to see Revelation 10:7, how it is worded. "But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets." Beloved, that simply means that all that the prophets had written in the Bible, which they could not understand, and which were parables and which were mysteries, Revelation 10:7 was to unfold that. Not the unwritten mystery. And you can find that in "Sirs Is this the time?" The prophet of God established that there are two sets of mysteries. The written mysteries and the unwritten mystery. Brother Branham was sent to unravel the written mysteries, and he said, after the written mysteries are revealed, then the seven thunders are revealed (the coming of Christ).

37-3 "Now, there's writing on the inside of the Book, but the backside had seven seals on the back of it that wasn't written in the Book…Now, remember, it wasn't written in the Book. "And in the days of the voice of the seventh angel all this mystery that's written within should be finished." It should be taken care of in that day…Then is the time for the seven voices of Revelations 10 to be revealed. When the Book is finished, there's only one thing left, and that is the seven mysterious voices of thunder that was wrote on the backside of the Book that John was forbidden to write…After it's all done completed, then these seven thunder voices is the only thing that is stuck to the Book, that's not revealed. It's not even written in the Book." (Sirs is this the time? 62-1230E).

So now, Brother Branham's ministry was to come and bring all the mysteries from Genesis to Revelation plus what ever the prophets never understood. That was brother Branham's ministry. Now when he done that it laid a foundation for the coming of the Lord.

20-1 "My mission, I believe, to the earth is what? Is to forerun the coming Word (See?) the coming Word which is Christ. And Christ in Him has the millennium and has everything right there because He is the Word. See?" (Spoken.Word.Original.Seed 62-0318m).

That is what brother Branham done; he foreran the coming word. He opened the seals, and when the seals were opened my friend, down came Christ, standing upon land and sea. The opening of the seals was the coming of Christ; the event of the opening of the seals, but then it was not revealed to him. It was in an unknown language; he could not make it out. He was a John the Baptist. Now, some make brother Branham the coming of the Lord. That is gross error. How could John the Baptist be Jesus? John the Baptist cannot be Jesus. John the Baptist was John the Baptist, and Jesus was Jesus. John the Baptist was sent to forerun Jesus. John the Baptist, the Elijah for today, introduced the second coming of the Lord, and the second coming of the Lord was hidden under the seventh seal. It is to be broken to the public in due season.

Question # 5: "What will give the bride rapturing faith, show the bride how to prepare and give the bride a revival?"

ANSWER: Now again, this question is based upon an erroneous conception; and that is, they are thinking that all the mysteries are the thunders, and that is going to give the Bride rapturing faith, bring a revival and is going to prepare the bride for the translation. Impossible! The people in this message have been following the mysteries that were revealed by brother Branham for better than forty or fifty years, and instead of getting better they are getting worse. So now again, that is hinged upon a misconception that all the mysteries which came by brother Branham are the thunders, and since they are the thunders, it is producing rapturing faith now. That is Coleman's doctrine that says that the seven lived voices are the seven thunders, they are the seven church age messengers' messages, and when we hear that, we are growing daily and we are getting into a rapturing faith. It's a lie! That is why they say that they had a revival, that they are manifested sons of God, they are all ready for the rapture and they were waiting for it in 1973 and an half. Rapturing faith, my brother, is not the seven church age messages. It is a total impossibility! That's a heresy! The prophet of God said rapturing faith comes by the seven thunders, and the seven thunders is the coming of the Lord. So when people start getting revelation of the true seven thunders which will declare the coming of the Lord as the son of man, and give you insights into his second coming, that will stir the bride, for a revival. That is going to bring a rapturing faith.

65 "But to the church, the Bride, the rapture is a revelation to her. It's revealed to her… the true Bride of Christ will be waiting for that revelation of the rapture." (The Rapture 65-1204).

253-2 {182} "The Bride hasn't had a revival yet. See? There's been no revival there, no manifestation of God to stir the Bride yet. See? We're looking for it. It will take those seven unknown thunders back there to wake her up again. He will send it. He promised it. Now, watch. Now, she was dead." (The Third Seal 63-0320).

Now, people get so carried away with the quotations of brother Branham, where he said, "The seven thunders will bring rapturing faith." Let us consider that just a little bit according to the scripture. Now people just get these quotations up into their heads, they quote what they want to quote and don't know what they are saying. "The seven thunders brings rapturing faith." How on earth can we bypass the scriptures? Enoch, had he rapturing faith? [Congregation says, "Amen!"] Did he have any thunders? Come on, somebody's getting their lines tangled up. Did Elijah have rapturing faith, and went away in chariots of fire? Did he preach any thunders? Well, come on. Beloved, did Jesus have rapturing faith? [Congregation says, "Amen!"] Well, He never preached the thunders back there. He told John to seal it up, and He went away in a rapture. What are you looking for to carry you away in the rapture? Now, do you see, people have this whole thing mixed up. No, that is not how it is going to happen brother. It is not going to happen that way. You got to bring that right back to the scripture.

377-2 This age…was to be the age in which the true church would return to being the bride she was at Pentecost…What seemed to be the answer came as many began to speak in tongues and manifest gifts of the Spirit. It was then believed that this was indeed the long awaited RESTORATION. It was not, for the latter rain can come only after the former rain which is the spring or TEACHING rain…Thus what was thought to be the restoration and the final quickening unto the rapture had not come...The people of God are being made ready by the Word of Truth from the messenger to this age. In her will be the fullness of Pentecost for the Spirit will bring the people right back to where they were at the beginning…It is "Thus saith the Lord" for that is what Joel 2:23-26 says...God isn't going to plant a new Church, but is going to bring His original planting back to original seed…Next will come the harvest rain or rapturing faith." (Church Age Book Cpt.10).

Now people think that the seven thunders is the seven church age messages and the more you cram it, the more you kind of quote the quotes and you listen to the tapes, you are going to get rapturing faith. That is dumb. It is not a mythical conception of the messages of the seven church ages. And you can't follow that. "What will give the bride rapturing faith?" The Word. The preaching of the son of man, the coming of Christ. That's the seven thunders that were hidden under the seal. "What will show the bride how to prepare?" The same revelation. Before the rapture takes place, you've got to have that. What will bring a bride's revival? Of course the seven thunders brings a bride's revival.

253-2 {182} "The Bride hasn't had a revival yet. See? There's been no revival there, no manifestation of God to stir the Bride yet. See? We're looking for it. It will take those seven unknown thunders back there to wake her up again." (The Third Seal 63-0320).

It brings a revival. But the misconception from which this is asked is that the seven thunders are all the mysteries of the seven church ages. Impossible! Fifty years have passed and the people who are around this message are worst off. They have gone away from the ABC's and are back into all kinds of immoralities and worldliness, and they have produced nothing. Unless the Lord comes on the scene with the seven thunders, there will be no Bride for the rapture. That is where it is, and God knew that they would come into this condition. He reserved that revelation for this time because His elect is in the mixed-multitude and Satan moved and bounded them with all these thunder fevers.

Question # 6: "When then will these scriptures be fulfilled?"

ANSWER: What he is asking here again is based upon a misconception. So he actually thinks that we don't believe that Revelation 10:7 is fulfilled, Revelation 3:14 is fulfilled, and that the mysteries are revealed. Now what we are saying, my brother, is that Revelation 3:14 is fulfilled to the letter, Revelation 10:7 is fulfilled to the letter and all the mysteries of God are revealed which was written in the Book, but there is a particular mystery that is not written in the book, and it is called the seven thunders. That is not revealed. It is in a different category all entirely. And the only one that holds that is Revelation 10:1, the heavenly Angel. The seventh seal and seven thunders were not the messages of the seven church ages messengers. No! It is plainly recorded here friend, in Revelation10: 1-4: "And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud…and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices." Out of the mouth of that mighty angel came forth the seven thunders. Directly with the scripture, directly with what Brother Branham said, that the seventh Angel on top flew eastward with the revelation. This is why many people are deceived around the world. They do not understand the covenants

Now, be practical, be realistic. The first seal is the white horse rider bringing in error into the church. Second seal is martyrdom of the saints for their faith. Third seal is the dark ages, where the devil took away the truth from the people. Fourth seal brings us to our day with a one world government and a one world church. Fifth seal concerns the Jews salvation. Sixth seal has to do with the judgments of God. Do we see all the mysteries in that? Impossible! You cannot take all the mysteries that Brother Branham preached and put them in the seals. Brother Branham preached many mysteries before the seven seals book was opened, and there are more mysteries preached in the Church Ages book, than was preached in the seals, you cannot prove that scripturally. You cannot take all the mysteries that Brother Branham preached and put it back in the seals. The seals opened up a particular type of mystery. The first four seals exposed the antichrist, the fifth seal the Jews, the sixth seal the judgment, and the seventh seal holds the seven thunders, which is different from all six seals. It was not even written in the book! What they are saying here is that all the mysteries that were preached by Brother Branham, makes up the seven thunders. It's a lie of the devil!

Brother Branham came to his conclusion, that the seventh seal was not revealed in 1963, you'd better hold on to that conclusion. When the prophet came to his conclusion, he said, "The seventh seal was not revealed to me." He said, "Believe me because I am speaking the truth," and he was consistent with that revelation, that the seventh seal was not revealed, until the time of his death. Now I believe that one. How many believe that? [Congregation says, "Amen!"]

We believe that with all our hearts, and are looking forward for that great revelation to be broken to the public.

God was growing up David in the back part of the desert, until Goliath start roaring down in the valley. Goliath is going to roar very soon-the pope of Rome, the world council of churches, the squeeze is going to come. The prophet said that God has a prison church somewhere in the back part of the desert.

Question #7: "What is the hope of the promised Bride in this last age?"

ANSWER:> 79 "Here's the only hope that I have this morning to wind up my message, is this, "While Samson was bound, a new shock of hair growed out. God, send us another church just before the end time, that the power of the Holy Ghost can come into her in the demonstrations of the Spirit, and Mark 16 can follow the church, Acts 2:4, Acts 2:38, all of it will be following right along with the church. Signs and wonders accompanied the apostles. Great signs of His resurrection accompany them. While we're in prison, surely God's growing a crop somewhere, for the last great kill." (Deceived Church By The World 59-0628m).

The hope of the church is plainly declared by the major prophet. He looked for a super church by the coming of the Headstone, a bride's revival by the seven thunders, rapturing faith and the third pull, speak the Word ministry which comes at the squeeze. Christ in us the hope of glory. "To whom God would make known what [is] the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. (Colossians 1:27). This was confirmed by prophecy. The hope is to complete Christ's ministry.

171-1 " In these last days the true Bride Church (Christ's seed) will come to the Headstone, and she will be the super church, a super race, as she nears Him… He did not complete all His work while in His earthly ministry so now He works in and through the bride. She knows that, for it was not yet time for Him to do certain things that He must now do. But He will now fulfill through the bride that work which He left for this specific time." (Church Ages).

Mark 16: 17-18 and St. John 14:12 tell us what are the works of Christ and even the greater. "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." (St. John 14:12).

E-62 I believe that the church of the living God is moving into a sphere now that's going to shake the whole world. That's the first time it's been since the days of Jesus of Nazareth to a human being. "Ask anything that you will, and it shall be given unto you, anything you desire." Don't you see the words of Jesus Christ being fulfilled? Oh, it's going to come to pass pretty soon. I'm looking for it to happen in this meeting. I'm wanting it to happen now, that that anointing will strike the whole church of the living God, and she'll rise to her feet like a mighty marching army. The sick will be healed by a word; the blind will see; the deaf will hear; the dead will be raised up; and the power of God will shake the world with the church of the living God. We're in the process of it now. I believe it's soon coming to pass. I believe it will be just exactly that way. I believe it's going to strike the church of God soon, and it's going to start a revival that'll shake the world. I believe it." (Speak to this mountain 59-1123).

I noticed that the reason that this question was asked concerning the hope of the Bride in this last age, is hinged upon our denial of the false thunders which projects that all the revealed mysteries by Revelation 10:7 are the seven thunders, and for the Bride to reject such thunders is to be hopeless.

May I ask, what have such heresy produced in forty years since the opening of the seals? Nothing but corruption, heresies, isms and cults, in the name of the message and the thunders. In the light of the above scriptures and quotations of the message, who seems to be more hopeless? I assure you, it's the disciples of the second school of thought, because they are following the biggest heresy, that, "The seventh seal/seven thunders was revealed", and has produced nothing to prove such claims.

Somebody knows what they are talking about. Somebody understands the coming of the Lord. Somebody holds the plan of how to get back to Pentecost. Somebody holds the plan on how to be born again. Somebody holds the plan to receive the revelation of the son of man. The prophet of God said,

564-2 {301} "He's revealed all the six Seals, but it don't say nothing about the Seventh. And the end time Seal, when it starts, will be absolutely a total secret according to the Bible." (The Seventh Seal 63-0324e).

You had better humble your heart, that when you come in contact with that you can recognize it. I declare, my brother, the teaching, that the seventh seal was opened in 1963, a heresy, and I declare the truth that the seventh seal is yet to broken to the public. Amen!

Quote Letter: "By the help of God we put those two sets of quotes together, prayerfully studied them and the sum is what lead us to believe that the seven thunders were revealed, and the words of the prophet Ch. Ages Page 327 par. 1 - Pg. 328. ('Now this messenger of Malachi 4 and Revelation 10:7 is going to do two things. One: According to Malachi 4 he will turn the hearts of the children to the fathers. Two: He will reveal the mysteries of the seven thunders in Revelation 10 which are the revelations contained in the seven seals…' (not six). '…It will be these Divinely revealed 'mystery-truths' that literally turn the hearts of the children to the Pentecostal fathers. Exactly so.')"

ANSWER: That includes the fifty plus quotations which clearly states that the seventh seal is not revealed and those which Pastor Michael assumes are saying that it's revealed.

I infallibly declare that there are not two sets of quotes of the prophet on this subject of seventh seal opened and not opened. There is only one set of quotes, and they declare that the seventh seal/seven thunders was not revealed in 1963. This is an impossible task Mike, the major prophet Elijah of our generation was unable to altar the conclusion which God gave to him in 1963, and was consistent with that revelation until his departure, because only God Himself can do so, and He has a program for the seventh seal. It will be broken to the public at the appointed time. You have done exactly what Brother Branham warned us not to do concerning the seventh seal.

"So just don't--don't--don't try to make no interpretation. And especially tonight, when that Seal becomes up in front of you. See? Just don't try to interpret it. You just go ahead and just be humble and go right on with the same plain message…So just don't interpret nothing. If God wants you to know anything, He will send it to you." (Questions & Answers On The Seals 63-0324m Page 458-461).

With all the thunders around the world, and all the interpretations from New York, and all the big names, they have nothing to stand upon in the prophet's message, other than three quotations here, and the misinterpretation of certain words of Brother Branham to try to make them say that the seventh seal was revealed.

There are three major quotes which sound like Brother Branham is saying that the thunders are revealed. For ten years they never brought up those quotations, because we were all convinced from the seventh seal teachings that Brother Branham did not open it. But then in 1973, everybody got bright. We would now consider page 327 Church ages to further prove that two sets of quotations does not exist, concerning the seventh seal/seven thunders, opened and not opened.

327-1 "Now this messenger of Malachi 4 and Revelation 10:7 is going to do two things. One: According to Malachi 4 he will turn the hearts of the children to the fathers. Two: He will reveal the mysteries of the seven thunders in Revelation 10 which are the revelations contained in the seven seals. It will be these Divinely revealed 'mystery-truths' that literally turn the hearts of the children to the Pentecostal fathers. Exactly so." (-Church.Age.Book Cpt.9).

This quotation is not saying that the seventh seal seven thunders were revealed, but outlined what the ministry of the prophet will accomplish. However, when Brother Branham came to the subject, of seventh seal seven thunders, he concluded that it was not revealed to him. The church ages were preached in 1960, and published in December 1965. This statement only appeared in the edited version of Dr. Lee-Vayle, and not the church ages tapes of Brother Branham, and is grossly inconsistent and in direct opposition when compared with the declaration of the prophet concerning the mission of Revelation 10:7, and Malachi 4:5-6.

Brother Branham said that, "six seals were opened, the seventh seal was not revealed, and the seventh angel was to open the six seal mystery, we don't know what it is as yet, he hid the seventh seal from us." [Congregation says, "Amen"]. That's the mission of the seventh angel; to open the six seal mystery.

It went on to say that these seven thunders literally turn the heart of the children to their fathers. To turn the heart of the children back to the fathers is for the church to go back to Pentecost, with the same kind of doctrine; same kind of miracles; same kind of signs, and with the same kind of power that they received on the day of Pentecost. Oh glory! How many knows what turned the hearts of the fathers to the children? There was something that turned the hearts of the fathers to the children, and that was the event of the coming of the Lord. Yes sir! Malachi 4:5-6, sowed the seed of restoration for the latter rain, outpouring of the Holy Spirit.

377-2 "the latter rain can come only after the former rain which is the spring or TEACHING rain. The latter rain, then, is the HARVEST rain. How could this be the real thing when the Teaching Rain had not come? The Prophet-Messenger who was to be sent to TEACH the people and turn the hearts of the children back to the Pentecostal fathers had not yet come. Thus what was thought to be the restoration and the final quickening unto the rapture had not come. (Resume.Of.The.Ages - Church.Age.Book Cpt.10).

Our precious Brother Vayle, we can see from the following quotations, that he was not too clear, and in full agreement with scriptural doctrines taught by Brother Branham, even at the time of the editing of the Church Ages Book. It's possible that Brother Vayle has changed his misconception since that time, being now more matured in the Word. His rebaptism only took place in 1963, after the Church Ages were preached, and also the seals. Any person that loves Brother Vayle as we do, could very well understand that he did his best as a theologian, trying to edit a new message of Elijah the prophet, and some of his theology would have unintentionally been injected into the great and elaborate messages of the Church Ages. That does not give anybody the authority to establish other vital doctrines based upon such misconceptions, since they are inconsistent with the teachings and revelation of the prophet.

194 "Brother Lee Vayle, if you get ahold of this, here it is. That's the only question we disagree on; he believes the church will go through the judgment. I don't see it. I don't believe it." (Oneness 11/2/62).

"Brother Lee Vayle was just here today. I baptized him today in the baptismal service here today." (Paul a prisoner 17/7/63).

"Brother Lee Vayle, of course, is a scholar and a Doctor of Divinity. He really earned his degree."( Look.away.to.Jesus 29/12/63).

After Brother Branham explained forty facts to show them the placing of the seventh seal, the placing of the seven thunders, why it was not revealed; in 1963, this question was asked to him.

Now hear Brother Branham's first answer: "No!" How can a prophet give two answers to one question? How can I hang my soul on something like that? First answer of Brother Branham is "No." Second answer is, "Yes" they are revealed in the seven seals." Where? Where is the seven thunders revealed in the seals? We went through all the seals each year for sixteen years; it's not in there. Brother Branham answered this person according to the interpretation and the seed of discrepancy that were in his heart he thought that it was mysteriously revealed and hidden in the seals. That seed of discrepancy lived on until today. Can you hang your soul on something like that? I would not do that!

The third quotation from 1964 is expressing the expectations of Brother Branham, that the seventh seal would be revealed by the ministry of Revelation 10:7. Up to the time of his departure he confirmed that the seventh seal/seven thunders was not revealed. Therefore this quotation is not saying that the seventh seal is revealed.

"We find out over here in Revelations 10, "In the days of the Message of the seventh angel, the mysteries of God should be finished," the Seventh Seal would be pulled back. It should be there. Then all at once, when it's happening, a vision broke, said, "Go to Tucson, a great noise will take place at this time so you'll be thoroughly understanding and know that it's sent." (Shalom 12/1/64).

It is a total impossibility for any honest person to explain away the conclusion of the prophet, evident by the following quotations, by another set of quotes from the message. Whoever ventures to do so, is projecting to the world a confused prophet, with two separate doctrines on the seventh seal/seven thunders. There is only one revelation and conclusion of that subject, and that is, it was not revealed, but would be revealed at the coming of Christ, before the rapture. It will be broken to the public.

567 (1) "Now, what this great secret is that lays beneath this Seal, I do not know. I don't know it. I couldn't make it out. I couldn't tell it, just what it said. But I know that it was them seven thunders uttering themselves right close together, just banging seven different times, and it unfolded into something else that I seen." (Seals Book New Ed. Page 512 (322-323)).

567 (2) "Then when I seen that, I looked for the interpretation that flew across there, and I couldn't make it out. That's exactly right, friend. See? The hour isn't quite yet for it, but it's moving into that cycle. See? It's coming up close." (Seals Book New Ed. Page 510 (323-324)).

567 (3) "I'm only telling you what I seen and what has been told to me, and now, you do whatever you want to." (The seventh Seal 18/3/63).

568 (2) "When will it be, Brother Branham?" I cannot tell you. I do not know.. One of the mysteries of that Seal, the reason it wasn't revealed, it was seven thunders that uttered their voices, and there it is perfectly, because nothing knows anything about it; it wasn't even written. So we're at the end-time-- we're here." (Seals Book New Ed. Page 513 (335-336)).

571 (3) "…Don't try to interpret the things...Every body understands that now?"(Seals Book New Ed. Pages 516(358)).

564 (2) "And in Sabino Canyon, He said, "This is the third pull." And there's three great things that goes with it, and one unfolded today, or yesterday, the other one unfolded today, and there's one thing that I cannot interpret, because it's in an unknown language. But I was standing right there and looked right straight at it, and this is the third pull coming up. And the Holy Spirit of God... Oh, my. That's the reason all heaven was silent." (Seals Book New Ed. Page 509 (299-300)).

564 (3) "Now, I'd better stop right here. See? I just feel checked not to say no more about it. See? So just remember, the Seventh Seal, the reason it was not opened (See?), the reason He did not reveal it, no one should know about it." (Seals Book New Ed. Page 509 (301-302)).

564 (4) "…Notice now, for the end of time message (this Seal), after all He's revealed all the six Seals, but it don't say nothing about the Seventh. And the end time Seal, when it starts, will be absolutely a total secret according to the Bible." (Seals Book New Ed. Page 510 (304))

So there we are. Upon the basis of these quotations we stand. Upon the basis of the Scripture we stand, and we invite any challenge around the world from anybody who wants to prove that Book Number Five is wrong on the "Two Schools of Thoughts." We firmly believe in the first school of thought because Brother Branham stood for the first school of thought. The second school of thought was born in New York and it is a heresy and it is of the Devil!

We will now examine, by the Word and message, a compilation of six pages trying to prove that the seventh seal is revealed. We will let these ministers from Sierra Leone freely speak and let them quote the quotes to try to prove what they are saying. But, I assure you that there is not a single quotation where Brother Branham said anywhere that the seventh seal is open. But people, because of certain interpretations and conceptions in their minds, they read the message partially, motivated by their conceptions, and think that they are reading what Brother Branham is saying. They think that they are reading that the seventh seal is opened up. It is not, and I am about to prove right here tonight again that the seventh seal is not revealed. I stand on the first school of thought and I am ready to expose the second school of thought as heresy.

I want to lay a foundation for two or three minutes, because we will run right into what I am about to say.

Now, I have nothing against Mr. Coleman. I love him as a human being, and if there is space for repentance, I wish that he would repent before he departs this life. But, he has corrupted the people in the message, around the world. I have no bitterness or hate in my heart for any human being upon the face of the earth. First of all, I want to let you know the gist of Coleman's doctrine so you could watch the questions that follow here for your own self, and see how they fit in with the heresy of Coleman, whether these brothers in Sierra Leone were in direct or indirect contact, or if the same spirit from New York went over to Sierra Leone to give them the same "revelation," I do not know. But, I am here to show you that these questions here are closely hinged on the heresy of Coleman. All respect to Mr. Coleman.

Some of you may not know what is the heresy of the thunders that started off in New York by Mr. Coleman. It came to passed once upon a time, that a man pass by New York who was a revivalist and preached the revelation of God into such a place as no other preacher ever preached it, and he hinted of the promises of the hour and certain things about the son of man, and many other things that were very strange to the preachers of that time. And it came to pass that they declared this man in an office that he himself never did claim. He was humble enough and never did declare himself in any office. But then, the people in New York used to prophesy about the man called Robert Lambert, saying that he is a servant of God, which is still on tape, and then they made him their evangelist, and he used to go in and come out from amongst them, as David fought for Saul. He preached that revelation amongst them, and a little while after, Mr. Coleman got his head swollen with the things that he heard, and after that, he formulated a doctrine, thinking that he found the seven thunders in Brother Branham's message.

His opinion was that "The seven thunders is indeed revealed and when it was revealed, Brother Branham mysteriously hid the thunders throughout his message." That was the opinion of Mr. Coleman. If that was so, Brother Branham would have said that, because when the seven trumpets were preached supernaturally, Brother Branham said that they were preached supernaturally under the sixth seal. He even told us where to get it. Now, if that was so, Brother Branham would have said that in the seventh seal when he came to his conclusion, that it was in an unknown language, and he could not interpret it, and you got to wait for the revelation.

So, the formulation of Mr. Coleman, which is very intellectual, is that he looked on the first seal where Brother Branham explained, that when the first seal was opened there was a thunder. Then, he said that the second seal is also a thunder, which Brother Branham said, and the third, fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh seal each was also a thunder, and if that thunder is the voice of God, then that thunder means the message of the messenger, and since there are seven messages for the seven church ages, that makes seven voices and it makes seven thunders. So, he concluded that the seven thunders is all the mysteries of the seven church ages that Brother Branham revealed. So now, the doctrine of Coleman says that every thus saith the Lord is a thunder. So, he took those seven voices, which represent seven messages of the seven church ages, and heaped up these messages together and said, "Seven voices-seven messages equal seven thunders." That sounds more like mathematics to me. He said, "Now, the revelation of the thunders is the seven virtues and the seven virtues were throughout the seven church ages, so the seven thunders is the seven virtues. Then, a little later on they came up a little higher with a fancy revelation, and a lot of things that went with that doctrine. So every promise of the seven thunders was applied to that doctrine from New York. They claimed a revival; they claimed the latter rain, son of man and the coming of the Lord. And then they came up with a heresy, and the heresy was that there was a sealing revival in 1984. Then, some of them who were "sealed" died with AIDS, and all that those thunders done was to corrupt those people and take them away from the ABCs of the message. Oh yes! Then they came up with a doctrine that the angels that took up Brother Branham were the seven theophanies of the seven church age messengers, and each angel was holding a thunder, because the thunders are the messages of the church age. No! We don't believe that. We believe that to be heresy. We believe that to be antichrist. We believe that is a doctrine that came from New York, and I am about to prove that all these questions are hinged upon that conception.

So, I quote partially and I will go back to this compilation for the simpler question and other erroneous statements that are made here as the foundation to those questions.

Quote letter: "Brothers, after taking our time prayerfully, comparing the two schools of thoughts and their implications, assuming both of them are correct which is not possible but we did so just to clear the air and dividing the word of God in these questions in a table form, this is the sum which we want you to help us to both fill and answer if possible.

For another, we believe that Bro. Branham fulfilled Mal. 4:5-6 luk. 17: 30 and Rev. 10 : 7. He restored the lost truth by reminding and taking us back to the Apostolic doctrine faith. He revealed the son of man to us as Christ veiled in human flesh again this time. He also made or revealed to us All the mysteries that our forefathers and the apostles never knew before. And being that he cannot revealed the mysteries on the truth that is lost and forsaken, he has to restored the truth before revealing the mysteries. And that is exactly his ministry. We believe the third pull which is the short, quick and powerful ministry of the Bride by the power of the spoken word through the great out-pouring of the Holy Ghost as part of the 7th Seal and 7 thunders. All these are events prior to the rapture as a witness of our faith and testimonies. Please study these quotes and rightly divide them with the others that speaks the contrary. My brother please study the message "the breach between the 7 C / Ages and the 7 seals" and also the first and the 7th seals."

ANSWER: I am here to tell you that the others are not speaking contrary. Quotes of the prophet are not conflicting with one another. Each quote is put in their right perspective and in their right category.

So, this compilation of questions by this panel of ministers are saying that they are giving us quotes here from the Breach, the first seal and from the seventh seal to prove that the seventh seal and the seven thunders was indeed revealed by Brother Branham. We do not believe that, but for the reason of combating heresy we engage this literature. We engage your questions and they can either hold up in the Word of God or cannot hold up in the Word of God. Over each of these quotations there is something here written which represents the understanding of these ministers. Let us see if the prophet is speaking what these brethren have written.

Now, we will all repent if you panel of ministers can prove to us, by your quotes, that the seventh seal is revealed and the seven thunders is revealed and we call you to repentance if we can prove you wrong.

We are about to consider the quotations that are supplied to us in a table form. I will also give it in a table form just like he wants us to do. I will consider it here, very systematically. That is why I am very precautions and I am taking my time, because you sent these in a table form and I will answer them in a table form. It says:

Quote Ministers: "The reason why the prophet said they should only say what the tapes and the visions says. (seals pg 59 - 60). Only the simple will know that the 7th seal is opened. (seals pg 60 para 1-2).

59-2 {380} '…the breaking of these Seals this week anyhow. See, see? There it is, just where it's already passed and you didn't know it. See? See if it is. If the Angel of the Lord will break them Seals forth to us... Remember, it's sealed with them seven mysterious thunders. See?' (God In Simplicity 63-0317m).

60-1 {386} 'Now, if you're wide awake, you'll see something. See? I hope I don't have to hold it in my hand to show you. See?...It's here. We're at the end. Yes, sir. Smart, education will miss it.' (God In Simplicity 63-0317m)."

ANSWER: My beloved, I am not trying to jump this thing. That is on page 60, paragraph 1. Now, our brother is saying that Brother Branham said that the smart and the simple will miss the seventh seal revelation when it is opened. Brother Branham is speaking in a broad term and nowhere on this quote here specified seventh seal. He is talking about the revelation in general.

Quote Ministers: "Bro. Branham got the revelation of the seventh seal.

Question # 8: (In pg. 122-123 of the seals), the prophet said had not been the Holy Spirit that visited him he would have made a horrible mistake. But is as positive as he was standing that night that the Rev. come afresh that very day from the Almighty God. What was that Revelation then? (A food for thought)."

ANSWER: We are not looking for food for thought; we are looking for food for the soul. Now, this quotation is made by our brother, indicating that was the place that Brother Branham got the revelation of the seventh seal, but he does not want to commit himself. So, that is why he is asking, "What was the revelation then?" He is thinking that Brother Branham got the revelation.

I will have you to know my brother, this is the first seal and God could not reveal the seventh seal to Brother Branham while he was revealing the first seal, because Brother Branham said, He didn't know any of them as yet, it comes to him daily and he don't know the second seal, the third seal, and he don't know any one of them.

122-2 {35} "I don't know what the Second Seal is no more than nothing." (The First Seal 63-0318).

Therefore, this could not be indicating that God revealed the seventh seal to Brother Branham. I will now read with understanding, to the congregation and to those that will hear this message around the world, let you hear this quotation for yourselves, to show you how people turn up the words of Brother Branham to make it say what it don't say. Brother Branham is not indicating here, the revelation of the seventh seal. He is indicating the revelation of the first seal. I quote:

122-2 {35} "…the Holy Spirit came in the room and corrected me on something that I was writing down to say. I was taking it from an old context. I had nothing on it. I don't know what the Second Seal is no more than nothing, but I'd got some old contexts of something that I'd spoke on several years ago and wrote it down, and I'd gathered this context--context... And Dr. Smith, many great outstanding teachers that I--I'd gathered, and all of them believed that, so I'd wrote it down. And I was fixing to say, "Well, now I'll study it from that standpoint." And there about twelve o'clock in the day the Holy Spirit just swept right down into the room, and the whole thing just opened up to me, and there it was...?...of this First Seal being opened." (The First Seal 63-0318).

This is English language, friend. The prophet of God was getting ready to preach the first seal. He was going to use some old notes he had from Dr. Smith, and Dr. Smith was wrong in his interpretation, and as he got ready to use that, the Holy Spirit swept down at 12:00 and gave him the revelation of the first seal. So, this quotation you are making here from the seals book page 122, paragraph 2 is the wrong interpretation. It is not the seventh seal that Brother Branham received there, it was the revelation of the first seal, and page 60 does not specify in the least that Brother Branham said that the people missed the seventh seal, because on God in simplicity, he did not reveal the seventh seal revelation. So now, these quotations do not in anyway suggest that the seventh seal/seven thunders is revealed.

Quote Ministers: "(In pg 128 Para 2 of the seal) We noticed also that those 7 thunders will be revealed by the 7th Angel and that will get the bride together for rapturing faith.

128-2 {75} 'And at the end of the Pentecostal age we are supposed to receive, according to the Word, as God help me tonight to show you through here, that we are to receive a messenger that will take all those loose ends out there and reveal the whole secret of God for the rapturing of the Church. And then there's coming forth seven mysterious thunders that's not even written at all. That's right. And I believe that through those seven thunders will be revealed in the last days in order to get the Bride together for rapturing faith; because what we got right now, we wouldn't be able to do it.' (The First Seal 18/3/63)."

ANSWER: Yes, Brother Branham did say that, with great hope and great expectation, but the revelation is not in that paragraph. The prophet of God was opening the seals by the plan and economy of God and he was hoping as the seventh angel to receive that revelation. Nothing in there says that it is revealed. No! The prophet of God was hoping that he himself will get the revelation. Nothing in there says that the seventh seal/seven thunders is revealed. No! So now, he is quoting page 137-139 of the seven seals book.

We will now get into this out here. Remember, he is quoting from the Breach, from the first seal and from the seventh seal to prove that the seventh seal is opened. Now, that is the cart before the horse. How on earth can you quote to me from the first seal and the Breach to prove that the seventh seal is opened, when the seventh seal is the last seal, and Brother Branham had not even touched the seventh seal until the last day of the meeting? It is wrong! I will still consider your arguments.

Quote Ministers: "The 7 Angel holds the 7th thunders (seals pg 18 para 6).

18-6 {103} 'We're in teaching, and you can realize what a great strain it is on me (See?), because if I teach anything wrong, I'm going to have to answer for it. See? And so I must not take what anyone says; I must--it must be inspired. And I believe that the Seven Angels who's holds these seven thunders will grant it.' (seals pg 18 para 6)."

Quote Ministers: "(In pg 137 - 139 of the seal) We learnt that the break of the first seal was a thunder roared…" and that 7 voices equals to 7 thunders. So those 7 thunders in Rev. 10:3 are 7 voices."

ANSWER: Hear this! Oh my, I'm going to stop here. Listen to this carefully. Page 137-139 is the quotation that they are giving. How many say, "Coleman's doctrine?" [Congregation says, "Amen!"] I told you before that this doctrine is hinged in Coleman's doctrine. Here, our brother is bringing the seven voices of the seven church ages to make it the seven thunders of Revelation 10:3-4. It is Coleman's doctrine. Now brother, wherever you got that, whether from Coleman, his tapes, his agents or from a pumpkin vine preacher that accepted that doctrine, I want to tell you that this is Coleman's doctrine that makes the seven voices of the seven church ages the seven thunders. Yes, and it is a lie of the Devil! And I could add something here from your last letter where you spoke about the seven theophanies are the seven angels. So now, this is literally Coleman's doctrine that you are propagating here, and it is not right. The seven voices of the seven church ages are not the thunders. Absolutely not! Brother Branham said on the Breach that the seven seals being opened are not the seven thunders.

75-3 {49} "Notice, Seven Seals on the Book has the... These Seven Seals has the Book sealed. See? The Book is absolutely sealed. Do you see it? The Book is absolutely a sealed Book until the Seven Seals is broken. It is sealed up with Seven Seals. Now, that's a different from the Seven Thunders. See?" (The Breach 63-0317e).

They came up with a doctrine that the angels that took up Brother Branham were the seven theophanies of the seven church age messengers, and each angel was holding a thunder, because the thunders are the messages of the church ages. All right, now let me put in something here my brother. If each angel, if each messenger of the church age held a seal then Brother Paul preached the white horse, Irenaeus preached the red horse, Martin preached the black horse, and the next fellow that came preached the fourth horse rider, and the next one was holding the fifth seal and the next one was holding the sixth seal. My brothers and sisters, it does not fit the Word of God. The seals were only to be broken in the end time. I am talking about the heresy of Mr. Coleman. The seven messages brought forth by the seven messengers, although they are seven voices, those voices are not consecutive, but the seven thunders are seven consecutive thunders, and "Seven thunders uttered their voices" all at once. But, it took sixteen or seventeen hundred years for the voices of the seven church ages to be uttered.

557-3 {245} "…that's what the mystery is laying behind those seven consecutive thunders rolling out." (The Seventh Seal 63-0324e).

567-1 {322} "But I know that it was them seven thunders uttering themselves right close together." (The Seventh Seal 63-0324e).

558-2 {255} "Seven, God's perfect number, Seven [Brother Branham knocks six times on pulpit--Ed.] just right down the row. Seven thunders uttered straight together." (The Seventh Seal 63-0324e).

So, there are singular voices of the seven church ages, which were the messages and the seven thunders have to do with seven consecutive thunders, and the voices of the seven church ages held the teachings to the church, while the seven consecutive thunders held the coming of the Lord. How on earth Mr. Coleman could ever mix himself up like that?

Further to that, on page 142 of the seven seals book, the prophet of God said that when it thundered on the first seal John was commissioned to write, but when the seven thunders uttered he was forbidden to write it.

142-1 {166} "…when He pulls the Seal down, a thunder clapped through the place… now he wrote this, but when he started to write those other seven thunders, he said, "Don't write it." He'd been commissioned to write everything he seen. But when these seven thunders over in Revelations 10 uttered, he said, "Don't write them at all." They're mysteries. We don't know what they are yet." (The first seal 63-0318).

I am double proving here that the seven thunders are different from the thunders that uttered on the first seal and such like. At this point God had already revealed to Brother Branham what the thunder on the first seal meant, but he said he didn't know what the seven thunders are yet.

Here we are seeing that your doctrine is hinged directly into Coleman's doctrine. The seven voices of the seven church ages are not the seven thunders. The seven thunders are consecutive and the seven individual thunders that roared in the seven church ages are seven church age messages, and it was broadcasted over a period of almost two thousand years. So, your quote here does not fit in the least. We are familiar with these quotations, and what Brother Branham said out here is that when the first seal was opened up, a thunder roared and a voice spoke to Jesus and the people said, "A thunder roared."

Now, what you are putting here cannot be found in page 137-139. It is a total impossibility! The prophet of God never lined out that like that. This is an interpretation and heresies that you are injecting. Wherever you borrowed that from or whoever gave you that, it is an interpretation that you have borrowed. There is not one word that specified that the seven thunders of the church ages are the seven thunders of Revelation 10:3-4. It's a total impossibility! You are misconstruing, misinterpreting and misplacing the Word of God. There is not one indication on Page 137 - 139 to show that it has any link whatsoever to the seven thunders. Absolutely not! You have your seals book. Check it up, and I challenge you, if this here is outlined as you brothers outlined it there, that the seven voices from the seven church ages equals the seven thunders, then I am a false prophet; don't listen to me any longer. And if you cannot find that in those pages my brothers, I call you to repentance. Those things are hooked up right in Coleman's doctrine.

"The first thing happened... When that Lamb broke that First Seal, a thunder roared. Now, that's got a significance; it's got a meaning…Nothing happens without a meaning. All right, a thunder roared. Wonder what that thunder was?...Remember, a loud clapping noise of a thunder is the voice of God. That's what the Bible said (See?), a clap of thunder. They thought it was a thunder, but it was God. He understood it, for it was revealed to Him. See? It was a thunder. And notice, the First Seal when it was open in the symbol form it thundered. Now, what about when it's opened in its reality form? It thundered as soon as the Lamb struck back the Seal…The voice is a thunder." (The First Seal 18/3/63 pg. 137-139).

All that pages 137 - 139 brought out in all what Brother Branham said were that the thunder on the first seal is the voice of God. So, this smart man, Mr. Coleman, he said, "Then if the first seal is the thunder, then all the other seals are thunders. Since all those thunders make seven, then seven messages of the seven church ages equal seven thunders." It is a lie of the Devil, and I will preach that from here to the rapture! It has bewitched enough people, and to prove it is a heresy, look at the fruits of it

Let me put my cards on the table by saying this, that the quotation that were supplied to me, to try to prove that the seventh seal/seven thunders is indeed revealed, was taken from the Breach and the first seal. It is a total impossibility to prove to us that Brother Branham is saying in those quotations that the seventh seal is revealed. He did not even touch the seventh seal as yet. How on earth could he say that the seventh seal/seven thunders is revealed on the Breach and on the first seal? It's a total impossibility.

Now friends, if the quotations that you have given to me, you are using them to try to prove that the seventh seal is hidden in the Breach, the first seal, and the seventh seal, which I am searching now, then that makes up Coleman's doctrine in the very same way, and the understanding and the conception that is motivating you to cite these quotations to me as the seventh seal and the seven thunders revealed, is that same conception. Coleman believed that the seventh seal is revealed and is hidden everywhere in the message. It's a lie of the Devil! And the reason that you picked out these quotations is that you are trying to force fit the seventh seal and seven thunders into those quotations and it cannot fit. We will take the liberty to answer your other quotations that you cited here. You cited many quotations and up to now I am only using your quotations because you are trying to prove that the seventh seal/seven thunders is revealed.

Now, hear these things. Now you make some sense. If you want to prove that the seventh seal is revealed, come to the seventh seal. Now you make some sense. Now I might get my answer in there. When was the unknown language interpreted by Brother Branham, on what tape, and on what date? So, maybe your panel of ministers found it in the seals book and are presenting it to us. I will gladly look over these quotations that they have given me here, and try to find it. I have it all written out here, one by one. I took the patience today, and with little Susanna, my younger daughter, who is a great help to me. She is a great blessing to me on the computer.

So now, we are going to examine your quotations

Quote ministers: "(In pg. 556 of the seal) The prophet said the opening of the 7th seal is the end of time and all things and the struggling world ………., the sealing of the plan of Redemption …., and the ushering in of the millennium. And the breaking of the 7th seal not the seals but this particular one is so great that Heaven was hushed for a half hour."

556-4 {236} "Notice, the breaking of this Seal was so great that heaven was hushed by it in silence for the space of a half hour. Now, is it great? What is it? It was hushed: heaven. There wasn't a thing moved for a half hour. (Seventh seal 63-0324E).

ANSWER: You are citing that to try to prove that the seventh seal is opened. We are going to search it and find out if that is what the prophet of God is saying on page 556. This quote is not saying that the seal is opened. It is telling you what the seventh seal is and what it's supposed to be. The prophet of God is saying, in so many words, that the seventh seal is the end of the world. It is the end of all things, even because the seventh seal has the revelation to take away the bride and bring judgment upon the people. The prophet is speaking of the future. And I will quote one small quotation from inside of here to cover all that whole quotation.

556-2 {233} "That's what the Seventh Seal; it just ends the time for the world." (The seventh seal 63-0324E).

This is not specifying to me that Brother Branham is saying that the seventh seal is opened and the seven thunders is revealed. No! He is telling me what the seventh seal is supposed to be. All right, let us go on.

On page 557, I am getting another quotation from this panel of ministers, that is supposedly saying that "the seventh seal, seven thunders is revealed." Let me check it.

Quote ministers :"(In pg 557 of the seal) The prophet said he is certain that he had the revelation that the 7 thunders were revealed and it is in a threefold manner (I e. the 3 pulls)."

557-3 {245} 'And now, as certain as I stand in the platform tonight, I had the revelation that revealed... It's in a threefold manner.' (The seventh seal 63-0324E)."

ANSWER: Did he really say that brothers? Did he really say what you just said there on page 557? I'm quoting here from page 557 the quote that you made.

557 (4) "And now, as certain as I stand in the platform tonight, I had the revelation that revealed-it's in a threefold manner. That, I will speak to you by God's help of a fold of it…Here's the revelation to begin what... I want to tell you what it is. What happens is that those seven thunders that he heard thunder and was forbidden to write, that's what the mystery is laying behind those seven consecutive thunders rolling out.

557 (5) Now, why? Let us prove it. Why? It is the secret that no one knows about. John was forbidding to write about it, even write a symbol about it. Why? This is why there was no activity in heaven; it might give away the secret. Do you see it now?" (Seals book New Ed. Page 503 (248-250)).

They misquote the prophet around the world and deceive the people by taking away one 's' from what the prophet is really saying. All that the prophet is saying here my friend, and I challenge the world on this; He said, "I had the revelation that revealed it's in a three fold manner, and the mystery is hiding behind seven consecutive thunders." Now brothers, that is a pretty technical perversion of the Word, to a simple mind. All that Brother Branham is saying is that the Lord revealed to him that the seventh seal is in a three fold manner. He said, "As certain as I am standing here, I had the revelation that revealed (-) it's in a three fold manner." God revealed to the prophet that the seventh seal is in a three fold manner. To show the correctness of what he was saying, he said, "I will tell you one fold of it." He said, "The first fold is that the revelation of the seventh seal is hiding under the seven thunders and it's the coming of the Lord." That's the place that Brother Branham chained up the seventh seal silence with the thunders silence and the silence on the coming of the Lord. He chained the three silences by giving the first fold of it.

So now my brother, read over this thing carefully. You are misquoting the Word of God. The prophet of God is not saying that "I had the revelation of it." He never said that. He said that he had the revelation that it's in a three fold manner. That is a long way from saying that "I had the revelation." That is a million miles away from saying how the revelation is. He said that the revelation is in a three fold manner. So now, this quotation cannot stand. Impossible!

There are other quotations on page 556, and Brother Branham justified the fold of the revelation that he gave to the people, and that is, it's the coming of the Lord. Now let us get their next quotation from page 558 of the Seals Book. Now, remember that these brothers are trying to tell me, from the Seven Seals Book, that Brother Branham said the seventh seal is opened and the seven thunders is revealed; that is why they are quoting these things. Up to now I have not found a spot, but I found a lot of force fitting to try to show that he mysteriously said that. It doesn't have any mystery in this friend. The only mystery is the unknown language, and to get that revelation, the unknown language must be interpreted.

Quote ministers: "(In pg 558 of the seal) The prophet explained why was the 7th seal kept a secret? Not to be impersonated by the devil, and it is the thing that Jesus Christ said even the Angels of heaven did not know nothing about it and that he did not know it him self and said only God knows about it."

ANSWER: We agree with that. This quotation doesn't say that the seventh seal is revealed. This quotation is saying that the seventh seal was kept a secret so that the Devil don't impersonate it. I agree with that. This is very good help to me. Also it is saying on the page that Jesus did not know about His coming, the angels did not know, and it was not recorded in the Bible. So, maybe we might find when was the unknown language revealed and on what tape, as our precious panel of ministers explain themselves?

-- "Under the opening of the 7th seal comes the revelation of the 7 thunders and under the revelation of the7 thunders (message) comes the third pull. And under the third pull (which is the revelation of the entire word) comes the quick, short and powerful ministry of the bride by the Holy Ghost greater out pouring and the spoken word ministry will be made manifested."

ANSWER: We say "amen" to that. Absolutely right; but it is not here yet. It is to come. It is future. And nowhere did Brother Branham say, "It was on earth, it is here and it is manifesting itself." No! It is yet to come. It is future for the Bride, though it was manifested temporarily five times in the prophet's ministry.

Quote ministers: "The 7th seal is the coming of Christ which no one knows the hour, time and date, but there are events that will take place before and after his second coming even as it happened before his first coming. And for another the ministry of Bro. Branham is to come and forum the second coming of Christ by restoring the truth and revealing all the mysteries as part of his ministry too. There are events that took place in the ministry of the prophet as a sign of the revelation of those thunders and the opening of the 7th seal as the breaking of the half hour silence and the thing which nobody knows about (his second coming)."

ANSWER: Yes, we are acquainted with that (Half an hour silence), but you owe me an explanation. I did not forget. In one of your letters, you said there was an hour and a half silence. And in that hour and a half silence, Pastor Mike, you said, "That is when the prophet said nothing pertinent to the seventh seal on the day that he spoke about the seventh seal." And I asked you to show me Scriptures and quotations for your hour and a half silence, and you have not answered yet. I want the answer, I demand the answer, or I call you to repentance!

Quote ministers: "And there are events that are to take place in the life of the bride before her catching away. (Rapture). (In pg. 559 of the seal) the prophet explained about a little shoe that he tried to explain and out of it there was a big bunch of impersonators. And when he was taken in a vision by Him and He said "This is that third pull, and no one will know it. (In pg 560 - 561) there he spoke of a notable Angel than the rest and he said he is the one with the seventh seal. And the other seals meant a lot to him but this particular seal meant to him from his life time, how he prayed and cried out to God. And in that state he continued with the explanation of the Sabino Canyon incident where he received the king's sword which is the word now revealed in its fullness and with the same impression of that been the third pull which must not be explained where he said to him he will meet him there. (In pg. 563) He continue to explained the vision of a little baby's shoe again as type of his first and second pulls and the fishing experience with the small fish and how he tried to explained the 3rd pull again but was warned not to and he stood crying in the vision. And the voice said "you cannot teach Pentecostal babies supernatural things" but they should be let alone. Still with the words of this been the 3rd pull which must not be explained.

Question # 9: My Brother from the above statement, does that mean that Bro. Branham do not know what was happening or what has happened? Or indeed are we to expect another messenger? Please think on these."

ANSWER: I am not seeing the quotation that says that the seventh seal is opened and the seven thunders revealed. We are acquainted with those quotations. You said that you are giving us quotations where the seventh seal and the seven thunders is revealed. All these things are not pertinent to your claims. These quotations are a million miles away from what you are trying to prove here. It does not suggest that. It doesn't say that. We are acquainted with the King's sword is the third pull, that it is the full Word of God, but it does not say nowhere that the seventh seal is revealed. I haven't seen any statement in there where he said that the seventh seal is opened or the seven thunders is revealed. No! I am not on this pulpit to waste time. What are we trying? Must I see it mysteriously hidden? I am not trying to see it mysteriously said there at all. The only mystery about this is the revealing of the unknown language, and if you are seeing it mysteriously inside of there, you are certainly hinged on Coleman's doctrine. Do you realise that all these things are quoted to try to prove that the seventh seal is revealed? How will it stand up in the Word? All that Brother Branham mean, from the above that you quoted, is that the seventh seal is not revealed nor the seven thunders revealed. That is all that he said. All these pieces of quotations put together in a "mysterious form" to try to prove that the seventh seal is indeed revealed, is wrong. Yes sir! Okay, maybe we might find it in this quotation here.

Quote ministers: "(In pg. 575) "The prophet said that the sixth seal has a three fold purpose. And he explained. He also said the seventh seal has a three fold mystery and it is the mystery of the seven thunders. And those 7 thunders in Heaven will unfold this mystery. And it will be right at the coming of Christ, because Christ said no one knew when he would return. And he continue to explain up to pg 576 were he said this 7th seal cannot be broken to the public till that hour arrives. He continues with his explanation on the importance of the 7th seal that it is something going on spiritual and that he was sure you and me (many) were missing it, and here is what it is. It's the absolute a vindication this interpretation of the scriptures being sent of God. And as he continued on pg 557, he said and now this is the third pull that came from the west and he was picked up. And that was coming east with the mystery of these 7 seals just like it said in Junior Jackson's dream ……… .And he said the reason of him going to west is to connect with these angels's message to come here to reveal it to the church."

ANSWER: Yes, but they are not the theophanies of the seven church ages messengers. That does not indicate that the seventh seal was being revealed. "The 7th seal cannot be broken to the public till that hour arrives." "Amen" to that Mike. Panel of ministers, "amen." I demand one quotation to prove that the seventh seal is opened. I gave you dozens to prove it was not revealed in 1963.

Question # 10: "Why then are you saying that it is not revealed my brother for God's sake?"

ANSWER: It's not me who is saying that it's not revealed, it's the prophet. For God's sake, Brother Michael, why are you saying that it is opened when the prophet of God said that it is not opened and it was hidden in an unknown language? For God's sake, turn from your heresy. For God's sake, understand that your doctrine is hinged on Coleman's doctrine. For God's sake, understand that the seven angels are not the seven theophanies of the seven church ages messengers. For God's sake, understand that you are following the heresy from New York. For God's sake, understand that you have not produced one quotation out of the message up to now, to prove to me that the seventh seal is revealed nor the seven thunders revealed. For God's sake, understand that. For God's sake, understand that you are trying to prove that it is mysteriously in the seals, and that is also Coleman's doctrine.

Question #11: "Are we not carefully, prayerfully, studying the message?"

ANSWER: Absolutely! Everyday and every night. This is called "King's Royal College" and God said, "It is the best school of all." You have not carefully studied the message. You have not carefully examined the quotations of Brother Branham, that is why you could present all those quotations with an interpretation, to try to stand up against the first school of thought and support the second school of thought, which started in New York, even because you are not studying the Word of God as you ought to study it. You study with an interpretation in your mind. You study it with a hand me down conception, and anytime you study the Word of God with a hand me down conception, that is what you will see in the Word of God.

Question # 12: " Then please tell us who will reveal it and when if it is reveal."

ANSWER: God has a program. Page 458 - 461, and the prophet clearly said on the seventh seal that I don't know who and if he did not know who, it is not my business to say who. That is God's business. Revelation 10:1 will reveal it. Glory to God! Didn't you read your Bible and see where the thunders came from? It did not come out of the mouth of the earthly messenger. It came out of the mouth of the heavenly messenger. The one that will reveal it is Revelation 10:1, the mighty angel that came down from heaven. It came out of His mouth; not out of the mouth of Revelation 10:7, as you are saying. With all my loud voice, my brother, I am not rebuking you at all. Be it known that something comes over me when I hear heresy and the war blood rises. So, excuse the voice but listen to the Word.

Question # 13: "When will it be revealed? When shall it be opened and revealed even as we are approaching his eminence appearing?"

ANSWER: We are going to quote the prophet on when it's going to be revealed. That isn't any big mystery. That's very simple. It is clear my brothers and sisters, and I will quote here, just for the edification of our brethren who do not know when it will be revealed. I have several quotations and I will give you a few of them.

575 (6) "Did you notice when the Jews asked Him that? You know Seals, the Seventh Seal was left out; because (You see?), Christ said only God Himself knowed, not even the Angels. No wonder, it wasn't even written. You see, they hushed; nothing take place then. Angels don't know it; nobody knows when He's coming. But there'll be…seven voices of these thunders that will reveal the great revelation at that time." (Seals book New Ed. Page 520(392-393).

Seven voices of revelation will reveal the revelation at that time at His coming.

576 (1) "So I believe... If we don't know it, and it won't be known 'til that time, but it will be revealed in that day, in the hour that it's supposed to be revealed in. So the thing for us to do is to be reverent before God and serve Him, and do all that we know how to do, and live good Christian lives." (Seals book New Ed. Page 520(393).

Isn't that solid advice? If we don't know the time, don't know the day and don't know the hour, then behave yourself and don't misinterpret the Word of God! Go on and live a good Christian life until that day arrives. And it is soon at hand. You told me that the time was in 1963. Your question is, "When it will be revealed?"

576 (7) "You see Israel's gathering in its own homeland. But you notice, He omitted the revelation of this Seventh Seal. And here when the Seventh Seal, when He opened it, He also omitted it again. See? So we see that it is a complete mystery, therefore, the hour is not yet for this mystery to be known, therefore, we're this far and the rest of it will be known right around about the time that Jesus appears on earth again for His Bride, or whatever takes place at that time.

577 (1) Now, until that time, let's just all pray and live good straight Christian lives, looking forward for His coming." (Seals book New Ed. Page 521 (398-399)).

Does that explain when? It will be about the time that the Lord appears here for His bride. Around that time the seven thunders/seventh seal will be broken to the public. Mark every word. So, right here, Brother Branham tells us when.

All right. Now there are one or two questions that I am still appealing to Pastor Michael to answer for me; they were left hanging in Book Five; and that is, "When was the unknown language interpreted by Brother Branham?" Brother Branham said that the seven thunders was in an unknown language; I just read it to you; and that equals the seventh seal, and he said he could not interpret it. If the people have the seventh seal/ seven thunders, when did Brother Branham interpret the unknown language? On what tape? I am demanding the tape. I am demanding the date. I could find the date where he said that he could not make it out. I could find the date where he said that he could not interpret it. When did he interpret the unknown language to reveal the thunders and the seventh seal?

And I notice here, Pastor Michael, with all your talking, you have not yet come to my questions and I am receiving letter after letter with the same questions over and over: "Who will open it and, who this, and who that?' I want you to answer me those questions. Maybe your panel of ministers might be able to help you. When did Brother Branham reveal the unknown language and on what tape and what date? If you can verify that, then you can show me when the seventh seal/seven thunders was revealed. Until you could do that, you cannot prove that. And like I told you on the tape, my precious brother, there is not one man upon earth that was able to answer those questions that I asked, and that is why you never addressed those questions, even because you cannot answer them. Brother Branham said, "The reason that I never preached the seventh seal and the seven thunders, it was in an unknown language. When I looked for the interpretation that flew across there, I could not make it out." Now, that's his conclusion. That settles the affair. The only way that the revelation would have come forth is if Brother Branham had revealed that mystery and preached it somewhere on tape, and he did not. He did not reveal it.

Quote ministers: WHEN IT OPENED ('IT' - 7TH SEAL)

"(In pg. 576) You see Israel gathered in her homeland. But you notice, he omitted the revelation of the seventh seal and here when the Seventh Seal, when He opened it, He also omitted it again."

Answer: You hear him say "omitted the revelation of the seventh seal?" Now, people from the first school of thought hear that. They believe the prophet. But, people from the second school of thought grab a hold of this. They say, "You see, that the prophet said that he opened it." How could he say "opened it" and how could he say "omitted" before? And hear the continuation of this same line there: "And here when the Seventh Seal, when He opened it, He also omitted it again."

Brother, is the prophet saying that it's opened, or he omitted it? Then how could the prophet say, "When he opened it"? Don't you know, in the Scripture, in Revelation 8, it says, "And when he had opened the seventh seal." Now, do you know that this was quoted to me? He said, "Here is the Bible saying that the seventh seal was opened: "When he had opened the seventh seal." I said, if that is so, all the seals were opened, because the Bible said, "When he had opened the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh seal." I said, there was no need for the prophet Brother Branham then. Now, you had better get your pieces together, friend. That was in symbol form for the writing of the Scripture, but not in reality form. When he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven; it was omitted and not written. All that John said, "There was silence in heaven." Now, these people from the second school of thought pick up these things. So, I have proven when. It is just about the time that the Lord appears on earth for His Bride. Very simple!

Quote ministers: "For another, we believe that Bro. Branham fulfilled Mal. 4:5-6 Luke 17 : 30 and Rev. 10 : 7. He restored the lost truth by reminding and taking us back to the Apostolic doctrine faith. He revealed the son of man to us as Christ veiled in human flesh again this time."

ANSWER: We say, "Amen!" But, we believe that the son of man is not dead but alive and alive forevermore. Only partly he revealed Him. Luke 17:30, the son of man revealed, have different phases. Brother Branham fulfilled the phase of the shout, and after the bride leaves the earth the son of man will still be revealed. So, Luke 17:30 was not completely fulfilled in Brother Branham. We yet have Moses and Elias to come to the Jews and that will be the revealing of the son of man to the Jews.

Question # 14: "How can one say it is not Thus Saith the Lord? Why then is the Thus Saith the Lord for?"

ANSWER: The reason you are asking me that question my brother, is because it's stuck in your head that all the mysteries that Brother Branham revealed are the thunders. So, when Brother Branham spoke of these mysteries, he said, "All that I have spoken is 'thus saith the Lord'." That is why you have to ask me this: We are not saying that it is not thus saith the Lord. All the mysteries that Brother Branham revealed and all the six seals are "thus saith the Lord", but the seventh seal was not revealed, nor the seven thunders revealed.

I trust that having reached thus far, that we have made ourselves very clear, in a table form. Since the questions were placed in a table form, we gave the answers in a table form, and this table form conclusion is that all your quotes that you have supplied to us here to try to prove that the seventh seal/seven thunders is revealed, cannot prove it, because the prophet of God is not saying that on no part of the seals, neither in any part of his message, and this came from a certain conception. However you got into that conception, you are preaching the very same doctrine that Coleman is preaching and whatever is around the world: "Seven thunders-seven voices of the seven church ages; seven angels-seven theophanies."

How on earth could a person hang off on something like that? No, it's wrong. And for God's sake Mike, repent! For God's sake, stop perverting the Word of God to justify your conception. You are justifying Coleman's conception without even knowing it. For God's sake, believe what the prophet of God said: "The seventh seal is not revealed. The seven thunders is not revealed. It will be revealed to the public about the time that the Lord appears on earth for the Bride." How many say, "Amen"? [Congregation says, "Amen!"]

Quote ministers: "The 7 Angel holds the 7th thunders (seals pg 18 para 6). (In pg 560 - 561) there he spoke of a notable Angel than the rest and he said he is the one with the seventh seal."

18-6 {103} I believe that the Seven Angels who's holds these seven thunders will grant it." (God In Simplicity 63-0317m).

560-4 {275} And the one right next to me here, counting from the left to the right, would've been the seventh Angel…The one with the Seventh Seal. (The Seventh Seal 63-0324e)

ANSWER: Now, do you see the confusion? Since they believe that the seven angels are seven theophanies of the Seven Church Age messengers, they are mixing up the earthly seventh angel with the heavenly seventh angel. They are mixing up the written mysteries with the unwritten mysteries. My beloved minister brothers there in Sierra Leone, wherever you are in Africa, these two angels are two different beings. One is called the seventh angel, the earthly angel because he is a man who comes to the seventh church age. The next angel is called the Seventh angel because he belongs to the cluster of the seven Angels that came down for the opening of the Seven Seals and the one on top was the seventh angel. So the quotations that you gave me to try to prove that the seventh angel is the only one responsible for the revealing of the Seven Thunders, you are misplacing the angel. It is not talking about the theophany of Brother Branham. It is talking about another angel.

74-2 {40} "And when the Seals are broke and the mystery is revealed, down comes the Angel, the Messenger, Christ, setting His foot upon the land and upon the sea with a rainbow over His head. Now remember, this seventh angel is on earth at the time of this coming." (The Breach 63-0317e).

There are two angels, my brother, and the heavenly Angel met the earthly angel on the earth, right here. Brother Branham was the earthly seventh angel and Revelation 10:1 was the heavenly Angel.

All right, I will pin this down. Some smart aleck might want to say that was Brother Branham. It was not Brother Branham. He said that the heavenly messenger meets the earthly messenger here upon the earth. And he further said that the heavenly messenger was Christ, the Covenant Angel. My proof and my scripture to be defiant to this heresy, is that in the cluster of the angels that came down with the seven seals. The Seventh flying heavenly Angel held the Seventh Seal. The Seventh Seal and the Seven Thunders are one. Since the thunders went out from the Mighty Angel's mouth, it identifies both Angels to be the very same Angel because the revelation of the Seventh Seal and the revelation of the Seven Thunders is one and the same. Therefore whatever that flying angel was holding went out from the mouth of Revelation 10:1, and that makes him Christ. And do not tell me that Brother Branham is Christ now. Brother Branham was the forerunner and if you want to make Brother Branham the Son of Man, you are an idolater. John the Baptist was not the Son of Man; Jesus was the Son of Man or the seventh flying Angel. Oh yes, now do you see how clear that is? [Congregation says, "Amen!"]

If there was a Seventh flying Angel that came down from heaven and he held the Seventh Seal, then the Seventh Seal and the Seven Thunders are the same. We find one standing on earth. Out of his mouth went forth the Thunders. That makes him the very same Angel. It is one and the self same revelation. It is one and the selfsame Angel. Do not tell me that was the theophany of Brother Branham up there that was holding the Seventh Seal and out here Christ was holding the Seven Thunders. You are mad or what? The Seventh Seal and Seven Thunders are the same revelation. Whoever that Angel was who was holding the Seventh Seal, He is the same angel that holds the Thunders. And He's got to be Christ. How can you take that position and give it to Brother Branham and say, that is Brother Branham's theophany? That was not Brother Branham's theophany. Yes sir! This is a heresy from the pit of hell! I know that I might offend a lot of people, but I rather offend someone than offend the Lord.

These written mysteries and unwritten thunders. Now, do not forget that Brother Branham was presuming all along before he actually opened the seals. So, there were a lot of things that Brother Branham was still guessing at. That is why he preached the message "Sirs is this the time". On that message he spoke in suggestive terms: "Is the Seven Thunders this, is the Seven Thunders that? Is this the coming of the Lord?" presuming.

75-3 {49}"The Book is absolutely a sealed Book until the Seven Seals is broken. It is sealed up with Seven Seals. Now, that's a different from the Seven Thunders. See?" (The Breach 63-0317E).

Brother Branham is saying literally that the book is sealed up with the Seven Seals and that the breaking of the Seals and the Seven Thunders are two different things all entirely. All right, these brothers are making all the mysteries put together, the Seven Thunders. Now when Brother Branham came to that junction of the Seventh Seal, if all the mysteries made up the Seven Thunders would not Brother Branham say that? But he never even coined one word like that when he came to the Seal. He said, it is the coming of the Lord. The coming of the Lord is one mystery. He said that is one mystery that He has not revealed yet - how he will come and when he will come.

The Seven Thunders hold one main mystery and that is the coming of the Lord. Now all the other mysteries in the Bible belong to the Seventh Church Ages and Revelation 10:7 broadcasts that. So now, this dogma that says that all the revelations, all the mysteries make up the Seven Thunders, came from New York. We are going to approach one or two little things to show you how big men could be deceived. Number one, they made the earthly messenger without wings, the flying Seventh Angel in the heavens. What kind of a doctrine is that? Then trying to prove to me, who belong to the first school, how I should accept that "for God's sake". You better accept what I am teaching here for your soul's sake! This has to do with the people's souls. Accept what I am saying here because I am quoting from Brother Branham. I mean no offence.

Quote ministers: "Not withstanding the Holy Ghost was at work with us even in our own little humble faith as novice by them. The Lord guided us in the path of Righteousness, for His Name sake Amen. We had the revelation that the 7th seal was opened and the 7 thunders revealed, though not in the Coleman thunders way or any other ways but we believe in the entirety of the message as thunder message."

ANSWER: Our brother is saying that the Thunders are the entire message. I'll have you to know my brother, with all respect to you, that if that was so, Brother Branham would have said that when he came to the Seventh Seal. I am still asking you to show me when was the unknown language revealed. Call the name of that tape for me because the mystery of the Seventh Seal/Seven Thunders was hiding under that mystery of the unknown language. If that was so, would not Brother Branham have said something about it? Let me bring one more point there. Brother Branham preached all these mysteries that they had in the Seven Church Ages. They are compiled in the Church Ages Book. All right, now if the Seven Thunders were all the mysteries of the Seven Church Ages, what was the great secrecy when Brother Branham came to the Seventh seal, that he could not tell them that? Were not all the mysteries preached before? Why then would Brother Branham say, "I feel checked to stop here, I must not say too much, don't make any isms about it"? Now, if that was the mysteries of the Seven Church Ages, there would not be any secrecy about it. Brother Branham would have come forward and he would have told them; "You know the Seven Thunders are all the mysteries contained in the Seven Church Ages and I am piling them up here in the seals." It is nonsense! I don't like to hear big men talk nonsense! Brethren, you are talking nonsense! You want to tell me that you are brighter than Malachi 4? That when he came to the Seventh Seal he could not say that the Seven Thunders were all the mysteries brethren? You are not brighter than the prophet! Yes sir, and you are relying upon one quotation from Church Age page 327. However, that quotation is not on the tape. That quotation says that the Seven Thunders are the mysteries contained in the Seven Seals. All right, let's talk your language that "it is the mysteries contained in the Seven Seals". The Seven Seals book does not contain all the mysteries. No, not at all. Now that statement that is made in the Church Age is not consistent with the revelation that Brother Branham gave, up until 1965.

576 (2) "Here now, we find that the Sixth Seal has been opened to us; we see it, and we know that this Seventh Seal cannot be broke to the public until that hour arrives." (Seven Seals Book, New Ed. Page 521 (393).

577 (2) "And now, if this tape would happen to fall into the hands of some persons somewhere, don't try to make any kind of an "ism" out of it. The only thing you do, you just continue serving God, because this great secret is so great that God wouldn't even let John write it. It thundered out, but He... knowing that... promising us that it would be opened, but to this time, it isn't opened." (Seven Seals Book, New Ed. Pages 521 (400)).

578 (3) "Now, that is this Seventh Seal. It still is a notable thing. And we…don't know what it is as yet, because it's not permitted to be broken." (Seven Seals Book, New Ed. Pages 523 (407))

17-3 057 "And that's the reason there was silence in heaven for a space of a half hour. And Seven Thunders uttered their voices, and John was even forbidden to write it (See?)--the coming of the Lord. That's one thing He hasn't revealed yet, of how He will come, and when He will come." (Christ is the mystery 28/7/63).

33-3 "Remember, He hid the Seventh Seal from us. He wouldn't do it. When the Angel stood day by day telling it, but then He wouldn't do it on that one. Said, "There's silence in heaven." No one knew. It was the coming of the Lord." (Souls in prison now 11/11/63).

23-4 076 "Remember the Seven Seals is finished. And when those seven revealed truths... One of them He wouldn't permit us to know. How many was here at the Seven Seals? Just about all of you, I guess. See? The Seventh Seal, He wouldn't permit it." (Souls in prison now 11/11/63).

"That Seventh Seal hasn't opened yet, you know; that's His coming." (Feast of the Trumpets 19/7/64).

"You think that little noise out here in Tucson was something, when He opened the six seals, that shook the country around about and caused the talk, wait till this earth receives her baptism!" (Future Home 2/8/64).

So that statement is inconsistent with the revelation that Brother Branham held to. And there is only one quotation like that which was slipped into the edited Church age book. You cannot find it in the Church Age tapes and books that are not edited. I believe that is the work of a theologian, with all respect to Dr Lee Vayle who did a wonderful work. Yes, but there are many things in the Church Age that I could prove scripturally wrong and in direct contradiction to Brother Branham's message. I want you to pick me up on that challenge anytime. Let this tape go out. You brothers in Africa and India and wherever you are, pick me up on that challenge. I am saying that there are several things in the Church Ages that is not consistent with Brother Branham's revelation. And this statement here that you have quoted telling me that the Thunders is in the Seals, is inconsistent with the revelation of Brother Branham. I want you to challenge me on that. I send out this challenge worldwide. Pick it up. I think I might have to start charging some money for causing me to go through all these labours, and all this printing and all this posting. And if you believe what you believe you better stake some money behind it. I will use it for posting and publishing, yes.

All right, false doctrine really gets you annoyed, but I am not. For great big ministers to sit down and talk nonsense, it gets you really besides yourself. They said "…we believe in the entirety of the message as thunder message. (VOICE OF GOD)."

This is a lie that you are projecting brother. This is Coleman's doctrine and as much as you have been saying you do not believe the Thunders like Coleman, that is his direct doctrine and Coleman's doctrine is of the devil! Yes, with all good intention, you may not want to preach Coleman's doctrine but you have the very same interpretation.

Quote ministers: "No wonder the silence was broken. We will like to be a part of those who broke the silence, as we believed that since we came to the message."

ANSWER: Brother, you do not make sense. You just stated that you do not believe in Coleman's doctrine, and I have proven that Coleman broke the silence. Are you saying that you want to belong to the Coleman's group and Coleman's ism? You do not know what you are talking about. This silence that we are talking about, that was broken, was a silence of respect. Yes, the silence of reverence, the silence of saying what the prophet said all along. So whoever broke the silence in 1973 is out of place because they illegally broke the silence! When the silence was broken, it was a heresy that came forth. Do you want to belong to a heresy, Brother Michael? Do you want to belong to the silence that was broken? The silence that was broken was heresy, and it was introduced to you in 1992 when you came to the message. Those seeds are yet in you. But the true silence would be broken to the public one of these days. We want to belong to that. Yes sir.

The true silence will be broken to the public one of these days. So your desires here are wrong. Oh yes, that silence that we spoke about in book five, about being broken in 1973, is the silence of respect, the silence of reverence, the silence of obedience to the prophet of God who said that the Seventh Seal is not revealed.

Quote ministers: "Brothers do not forget that there is always a time of Refreshment a time of Revelation from the presence of the Lord and the revelation of God is progressive by the Holy Ghost."

ANSWER: Good admonishment. But all revelations that come forth must dovetail with the Bible and the message of the hour, otherwise it is of the devil. Up to this point I have proven all your assumed progressive revelations to be historical heresies of Coleman and your roots run deep into it, because you unscripturally believe, teach and is trying to convince me that "the seven angels of the seals are the seven theophanies of the church ages messengers, and Brother Branham's theophany to be the seventh flying Angel instead of Christ, and such heresies as all the mysteries makes up the thunders" and express the desire to belong to the satanic breaking of the silence of obedience and respect to the prophet's conclusion that the seventh seal is not revealed.

You proclaim these heresies as the progressive revelations. No brother! They are progressive heresies. I mean no offence, only that you understand the truth. Please forgive my boldness of speech through God's grace. Any progressive revelation is the opening of the Seventh Seal. That is the only progress in the revelation of God. Otherwise, no man add and no man take away from this revelation of the message of Malachi 4: 5 & 6.

Quote ministers: "But nevertheless, their false and bad fruits will not wipe or do away the TRUTH. The Truth is always the truth. And so this must not do the fact that the 7th seal was not opened neither the 7 thunders revealed. It is time for us to take our time and carefully study the words of the prophet with the scriptures and the types and signs. I am sure you understand me."

ANSWER: Yes. Now, he is talking here about Coleman and the group that follow that heresy, and he is saying that it is a clear exhibition that they are not born again. Anything that follows Coleman's doctrine, directly or indirectly, is not born again. So, his words are well spoken.

Quote ministers: "Well, for us it is a clear exhibition that they were not born again, and all those who profess to believe the message of the hour, whether thunder or non thunder (if there is any thing like that) and their lives speak contrary, they are false, whether preacher or laity, they are all false anointed ones. It does not bother me because all those secrets have been made know to us through the prophet messenger."

ANSWER: That is true. Whether you follow Coleman's Thunders, directly or indirectly you are not born again. Anyone that believes that seven theophanies are seven angels is not born again. Anyone that believes that the Seventh Seal is revealed and the Seven Thunders is revealed, contrary to what Brother Branham said, does not have the Holy Spirit. They are void of the Spirit, so you have rightly said.

Quote ministers: "Brothers, after taking our time prayerfully, comparing the two schools of thought and their implications, assuming both of them are correct which is not possible but we did so just to clear the air and dividing the word of God in these questions in a table form, this is the sum which we want you to help us to both fill and answer if possible."

ANSWER: Yes, I gladly embrace that opportunity and I am helping you to understand tonight, directly from the prophet. Yes, this will prove your sincerity. This will prove your honesty; I quoted the prophet from the beginning to the end. It is either you want to hold to your conception or you want to hold to what the prophet of God said. I am trying to help you here. But as for us, my household and I, we believe that it is not revealed. Yes, if you are stubborn and you want to have your own conception and still hold on to seven messengers, seven angels, you are in a delusion of the devil! Excuse the expression, but that's the truth.

Question # 15: "Who will then reveal the new name apart from a major prophet and When?"

ANSWER: That is very simple. There are other people outside of major prophets who received a new name of the Lord before, and this might be foreign to you, but there was a woman who received the new name of the Lord one time. God was going to take on a new name of redemption one time, and an angel came down and said, "Call his name Jesus." So, your thoughts don't always fit the Scriptures preachers.

God had a name one time, an original name. The Old Testament saints knew him by that original name. In Proverbs 30:4 it is written:

"Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?'

Showing you that there was a new name coming one day that the Son will carry. Is that right? And you know when that new name came it was revealed to a woman? So now, this nonsense about a major prophet for a revelation, is contrary to the scripture. God could reveal it to anybody, and when we have these backslidden Baalamities in the message, God could even allow a donkey to talk to them. So, do not tie the hands of Almighty God! God could use anybody with the required prophetic ability. Coleman's thunders teaches the heresy which says that the "Word" or "Jesus" is the new name. Are you also saying that he revealed the new name, and it's "Word" or "Jesus".

Quote: 159-4 {289} "The rider has no name, but Christ is called the Word of God. That's what He is. He's called that. Now, He's got a Name that no man knows, but He's called the Word of God." (The First Seal 63-0318).

158-3 {283} "And Jesus, His Name on earth was Redeemer, Jesus. When He was on earth, He was the Redeemer; that's true. But when He conquered death and hell, and overcome them, and ascended on high, He received a new Name. That's the reason they holler the way they do and don't get nothing; it'll be revealed in the thunders." (The First Seal 63-0318).

Peter declared the name of Jesus, in His first coming, after the outpouring of the Spirit. Those who have gone into the public with their thunders heresies and false new names cannot produce a dead fly.

304-1 {179} "Wait till them seven thunders utter their voices to that group who really can take the Word of God and hand it there. It'll slice and cut. And they can close the heavens; they can shut this or do that, whatever they want to. Glory…They could call for a hundred billion tons of flies if they wanted to. Amen. Whatever they say's going to happen, because it's the Word of God coming from the mouth of God." (The Fourth Seal 63-0321).

ANSWER: Brother Michael, what will we do with Joseph? Did Brother Branham break all the types? What will we do with Ephesians 4:11-15? God hath set some in the church, apostles, and prophets. Would that break the type? Now get your pieces together brother. Yes, when Brother Branham declared Joseph to be a prophet, did he break all the types? No. I will tell you, the greatest prophet is Revelation 10:1, Christ. Christ is the greatest prophet.

Question # 17: "Is the Bride been revived, shown how to prepare (dress) receiving rapturing faith since the 7 thunders were revealed even as she await the third pull ?"

ANSWER: No! All the false thunders have sent them backward and sin revived! It has them living in immorality, preachers behind the pulpit living in adultery, the women changed their dressing, everybody has gone back to the television, everybody went back to the sports field. They do not have a revival. She is not revived

Now, this is being said here because they claim the Seven Thunders and that the thunders is reviving the Bride. Women are sitting right in those churches uncovered, and you want to tell me that the bride is revived? She is not revived! And she would not be revived until the Seven Thunders go out and wake her up!

253-2 {182} "The Bride hasn't had a revival yet. See? There's been no revival there, no manifestation of God to stir the Bride yet. See? We're looking for it. It will take those seven unknown thunders back there to wake her up again. He will send it. He promised it. Now, now, watch. Now, she was dead." (The Third Seal 63-0320).

You believe that the mysteries are the Thunders, and that the Bride is revived? She is dead! The prophet said that she is dead. The only bit of life that is moving is among a few people and a few groups in the world. Yes, but she is dead. The prophet of God said so. You've got to believe that the Bride has a revival because you claim that the Seven Thunders are revealed. Yes sir, and the Lord is stirring up a group for the breaking of the Seven Thunders to the public.

Quote ministers: "Brethren this is our stand and confession, believing that the prophet messenger has come and fulfil that. If not those above questions of mind battlings would not have arose. Please we are waiting for your response to these questions"

ANSWER: You will have them. I do not know if you would like to hear the tapes. Writing is a little more silent and there is no loudness in the writing. Yes, but that is the way I preach. I do not mean to rebuke you but I would prefer if you got the writing. It will be much easier upon your tender nature and loving personality

Quote ministers: "We trust that this relationship will continue and your ministry will continue to be a blessing to us through your books"

ANSWER: Yes, I hope that too. But, as long as you believe in a heresy, and I believe the truth, we are going to have war! We cannot have unity. How can two walk together if they be not agreed?

Quote ministers: "I still understand you holding on your point of the 7th seal not opened neither the 7th thunder revealed. But I want you to rightly divide the word as Bro. Paul told Timothy and please clarify, reconcile and elaborate these questions with your teaching above."

ANSWER: Yes, I will hold on to that even if I die! Yes sir. Brother Branham has spoken and that is it. Yes sir. And I am not planning to die at all! I will hold on to this until it is broken to the public. Brother Branham has spoken, and let me tell you panel of ministers there in Sierra Leone and the whole world, there is no way in the whole world to shift me from the first school of thought, until God shifts me! I will hold on to that because it is the truth, and you better let go of your concept because it is heresy. So there is no admonishing, there is no preaching, there is no kind of an exhortation you could give to me to try to convince me any more different than what I am seeing in the Word of God.

Quote ministers: "My brother, I want you to know that it does sanction a doctrine to be true if many agree on it to be so."

ANSWER: Now, pastor Michael, this is the worst statement I have ever heard from you. A little fellow who follows this message, knows better than to make such a statement.

"Then you've got Micaiah standing there, sincere, prophesying under the Spirit, and here stands four hundred against him, prophesying--sincere, anointed prophets. Now, how are you going to tell the truth from error?...Here's the way to tell who's right. Micaiah's prophecy tallied with God's Word. Micaiah had the Word… So they judged by the one that had the majority. God's not always in the majority. He's sometimes in the minority, but He's always right. God is right." (God keeps His Word 57-0307).

You are so desperate to show that the Seven Thunders are revealed, until you have gone completely out of the context of the Bible and outside of the message. To try to tell me that as long as the majority believe something is right, it is right. How on earth you can reconcile that in the Bible? The truth was always in the minority. God was always in the minority. And hear the scripture:

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." (Matthew7:13-14).

How on earth can you make a mistake like that to try to prove your Thunders? Noah's group was eight people, together with his family, and the whole world was against him. He was in the minority and the world was in the majority.

151 "As it was in the days of Noah, as it was in the days of Lot, so will it be, just in the minority, the Church will be." (Perseverance 62-0218).

You say, "Okay Brother Bruce, excuse me, I was talking about the people in the Revelation." The Son of Man was upon the earth and he started to preach a gospel: except ye eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. And all his disciples left him. They were in the majority and he was left with only twelve of them, in the minority and the minority was right and the majority was wrong.

False thunders and the second school of thought make up the majority today, but we are right and they are wrong. And if you belong to that school, you are wrong with them too. That is the sickest statement that I have ever heard, that the majority have to be right because they are the majority. Now, that is not Bible friend, that is politics, that is democracy. Truth is not verified by a democratic government. No, it is verified by the Word of God. It is confirmed by the message of the hour. It is not determined by democracy; truth is determined by the Word of God. Let every man's word be a lie and God's Word be true. Away with democracy in the Church as far as truth is concerned!

Quote letter: "The eighth book has done it again in exposing heresies in the message. How some of the believers are rejoicing for such enlightment. To God be the Glory. But as I study this eighth book there are some things that flow down my mind which I will like to share with you. The 8 measuring rod of identification - Third Pull ministry (7th seal/7th Thunders) can be summarised in 2 points instead from my own point of understanding even as I study it carefully. No. 1, No. 2, No. 3, No.4…No.5, No. 6 which states the start of the rapturing faith, which we believe that the Rapturing is going on now, not to be started during those times….Point No. 7 is still in study because of limited message tapes and books i.e. whether the new name is revealed or will be during the 3rd pull manifestations."

ANSWER: Your assessment of Book eight and the eight identifications of the seven thunders ministry is further confirmation of all the answers to your questions. You are looking at these eight identifications through the misconception that "The seventh seal is opened". Such erroneous belief has caused you to label the conclusion of Brother Branham, that 'the seventh seal/seven thunders was not revealed', as 'the biggest heresy'. May I remind you of just a single quotation to verify this fact.

Quote: 567 (1) "Now, notice. So help me, by God I tell the truth, that these are spiritually discerned to me (See?), discerned by the Holy Spirit. And by every one of them, has identified his place in the Bible. Now, what this great secret is that lays beneath this Seal, I do not know. I don't know it. I couldn't make it out. I couldn't tell it, just what it said. But I know that it was them seven thunders uttering themselves right close together, just banging seven different times, and it unfolded into something else that I seen. Then when I seen that, I looked for the interpretation that flew across there, and I couldn't make it out. That's exactly right, friend. See? The hour isn't quite yet for it, but it's moving into that cycle. See? It's coming up close." (Seventh Seal 24/3/63).

Pastor Michael, do the above statement of Brother Branham sounds to you like the biggest heresy? In Exposition Book five I employed scores of statements to support the conclusion of Elijah the prophet. Are you taking those quotations as evidence against Brother Branham that he preached the biggest heresy? All that I have documented in support of my teachings that the seventh seal is not revealed, are the quotations of Brother Branham, and I have done the same on this article, in answering all your questions. Again, I reiterate that the conception that "It is mysteriously revealed and hidden in the message" is the seed of discrepancy that has blinded you from understanding what Brother Branham said that 'it is not revealed'.

In my final effort to prove to you that your conception is unscriptural, I will hereby set forth the eight identifications of the seventh seal/seven thunders ministry. If you still hold to your erroneous conception, you will continue to disagree with them, then I'll be forced to ask you, "How many of these identifications are accompanying you and your panel of ministers who have drawn up this compilation of questions?

I now take the liberty to state the eight identifications of the seventh seal/seven thunders ministry, and compare your claims with each one of them. I can fully understand why you cannot see eight identifications, but much less, even because anybody who believes that erroneous doctrine, that the seventh seal is already revealed, cannot agree with my teachings on these eight identifications.

17-3 Jesus, when He was on earth, they wanted to know when He would come. He said, "It's not... Even the Son Himself don't know when it's going to happen." See, God has this all to Himself. It's a secret. And that's the reason there was silence in heaven for a space of a half hour. And Seven Thunders uttered their voices, and John was even forbidden to write it (See?)--the coming of the Lord. That's one thing He hasn't revealed yet, of how He will come, and when He will come. It's a good thing that He doesn't. No. He has showed or revealed it in every type that's in the Bible . (Christ.is.the.mystery 63-0728).

"This Book's already opened (That's right) just waiting for the Seventh Seal to be identified with the coming of Christ." (What shall I do with Jesus24/11/63).

33-3 " Remember, He hid the Seventh Seal from us. He wouldn't do it. When the Angel stood day by day telling it, but then He wouldn't do it on that one. Said, "There's silence in heaven." No one knew. It was the coming of the Lord. (Souls.In.Prison.Now 63-1110m).

459-5 {16} And especially tonight, when that Seal becomes up in front of you. See? Just don't try to interpret it…If you can understand it, this is that third pull. (Question and Answers on the seals 24/3/63).

262 Third Pull, the opening of the Word, the mysteries revealed. There's no more higher order to reveal the Word than prophets. But the only way the prophet can be a-vindicated is by the Word. And remember the Third Pull was the opening of them Seven Seals to reveal the hidden Truth that's been sealed in the Word. (Anointed ones at the endtime 65-0725M).

284-5 {42} And when anybody thinks that he has those seven thunders, if it don't compare with the rest of the Word, there's something wrong here. (Fourth Seal 63-0321).

"Seven theophanies are seven angels, the seventh flying Angel is the earthly angel of Revelation 10: 7, all mysteries are the thunders etc. " are all heretical and totally contrary to the seventh seal/seven thunders revelation and are crowned with inconsistency to the true revelation of the seventh seal/seven thunders, which is the second coming of Jesus Christ. Such errors have proven your revelation imperfect.

6-1 "The third pull has now been vindicated…Now, it's just happened, so it could identify its presence among you. See? But it will not be used in a great way, until this council begins to tighten up." "When the squeeze comes down, then you'll see what you have seen temporarily, be manifested in the fullness of its Power…Then when that time comes, and the press comes to a place to where you're pressed out, then watch… watch the third pull then. (Look Away to Jesus, 63-1229E).

Are you claiming to temporarily manifest the third pull like other "thunders" preachers who are waiting for the full manifestation? I hope that you are not so deluded.

47-1 The pyramid is capped by the seven thunders…Is this the mystery of the thunders that will bring back the Headstone? (Sirs is this the Time? 62-1230).

116 The Dynamics of this church will be a refilling of the Holy Spirit, that we have worked in a small measure while the Headstone is coming down to unite with the Body. But when that Head and Body unites together the full power of the Holy Ghost would raise Her up (What.Shall.I.Do.With.Jesus 63-1124m).

253-2 {182} The Bride hasn't had a revival yet. There's been no revival there, no manifestation of God to stir the Bride yet. We're looking for it. It will take those seven unknown thunders back there to wake her up again. (The Third Seal 63-0320).

575-6 {392} We know that this Seventh Seal cannot be broke to the public until that hour arrives. (Seventh Seal 63-0324).

"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ." (Acts 2:36).

The Headstone/outpouring is to produce a revival. You claimed that the Bride is already revived under Heretical article No. 77. The prophet said that a revival signifies a move of God in power (Church ages page 70). They went to Pentecost for that power before the Bride's revival.

100 At the opening of the Seven Seals, Revelations 10, the full Word is to be borned into manifestation again and vindicated by the Spirit of God in the full strength, as It was when It was here on earth, manifested in the same way, doing the same things that It did when It was here on earth. Hebrews 13:8 said Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. (Seed.not.heir.with.shuck 65-0218).

6-1 "The third pull has now been vindicated, and I'm sure you all know what it is." "Now, remember, there'll never be any impersonation of that, 'cause it can't be. It cannot be. Now, it's in existence…." "Now, it's just happened, so it could identify its presence among you. See? But it will not be used in a great way, until this council begins to tighten up." "When the squeeze comes down, then you'll see what you have seen temporarily, be manifested in the fullness of its Power." (Look Away to Jesus, 63-1229E)

In the many years of your claims, which is an overflow of Coleman's claim, neither of you have come near to the manifestation of this fourth identification of creative power; Coleman in thirty years and you in eleven.

In these last days the true Bride Church (Christ's seed) will come to the Headstone, and she will be the super church, a super race…They will be the very manifestation of the Word of the living God…They have 'thus saith the Lord' or they keep still. They know that it has to be God in them doing the works, fulfilling His own Word. (Church Ages page 171-172).

"There'll be a Power put into the Church, and now is coming in, that the Holy Spirit will so anoint the people, till they'll speak the Word and It'll create Itself right there. We haven't seen Power like's coming into the Church now. I know it for a fact. "'Say unto this mountain be moved…The placing of the Church in position, where the Fulness of the Power of the Holy Ghost comes into the Church." (Hear Ye Him, 60-0213, Par. E-38).

That Super Anointing swept over me, said, 'Tell Hattie that she's found grace in the sight of God.' (Par. 179) "Now when the Anointing strikes, 'Ask what you will.' I have a perfect assurance that when That strikes, and whatever God puts to be asked, it'll be just exactly that way. It has to be, 'For if you say to this mountain….'" (Par. 196) "I challenge anybody, in the Name of the Lord. When that Spirit strikes and says that ["Ask what you will…"], I don't care what you ask for, it shall be granted." (Par. 225). (My New Ministry 59-1115).

E-62 I believe that the church of the living God is moving into a sphere now that's going to shake the whole world…"Ask anything that you will, and it shall be given unto you, anything you desire."…that anointing will strike the whole church of the living God, and she'll rise to her feet like a mighty marching army. The sick will be healed by a word; the blind will see; the deaf will hear; the dead will be raised up; and the power of God will shake the world with the church of the living God…I believe it's going to strike the church of God soon, and it's going to start a revival that'll shake the world." (Speak to this mountain 59-1123).

17-3 I was beneath and standing up above a great tent; I never seen such a tent…and there were hundreds of people standing around the altar weeping because they had accepted the Lord Jesus…the prayer line, seemed like it went all around the tent and out and down the street… behind this canvas was a little square building about twelve foot across and twenty foot long…I seen them bringing a lady upon a stretcher… And someone come and got her and pushed her through. And the next man came through was with crutches. I see them go through that little building, and on the outside the lady come out screaming to the top of her voice, pushing this stretcher…and she said, "What happened?" She said, "I just don't know." She said, "I couldn't tell you what happened." She said, "I've been paralyzed for twenty years, and looky, I feel like I never was sick."… And then…the Angel's voice, He said, "I'll meet you in there, and this is the third pull, but nobody will know nothing about it." (What is a vision 56-0408).

There is no Tent in view after all those decades of claiming the seven thunders. I trust that you do not propagate the heresy that the so-called Bride is the Tent.

"The third is properly identified. This will be the thing that will start the rapturing faith for the going away." (Look Away to Jesus, 63-1229E)

128-2 {75} And then there's coming forth seven mysterious thunders that's not even written at all. And I believe that through those seven thunders will be revealed in the last days in order to get the Bride together for rapturing faith. (The First Seal 18/03/63).

51-5 "Is that really them seven thunders fixing to utter out something that the little group that He's gathered together will receive a rapturing faith to go in the rapture when He comes." (Sirs is this the time 30/12/62).

No false thunders can produce rapturing faith, and since I have proven your thunders wrong, erroneous and heretical, it is evident that it is not starting any rapturing faith. Thus, your erroneous claims that even the rapture has begun, is a heresy. The rapture is not a progressive event but momentarily: "We shall be changed in the moment, in the twinkling of an eye at the last trump, and the last trump has not yet sounded. Spiritualizing this great event is a heresy. There is no scripture nor a single quotation of the prophet to justify that misconception. If it is based on the words: "change of nature", the early church was being raptured and fell short of it. Impossible! The last Trump must be sounded.

158-3 {283} "And Jesus, His Name on earth was Redeemer, Jesus…But when He conquered death and hell, and overcome them, and ascended on high, He received a new Name. That's the reason they holler the way they do and don't get nothing; it'll be revealed in the thunders." (First seal 18/3/63)

3-1 "Exactly the same. Under the Seventh Trumpet is to Israel the same as the Seventh Seal was to the Church." (Feast.of.the.trumpets 64-0719m).

304-1 {179} "Wait till them seven thunders utter their voices to that group who really can take the Word of God and hand it there. It'll slice and cut. And they can close the heavens; they can shut this or do that, whatever they want to. They could call for a hundred billion tons of flies if they wanted to. Whatever they say's going to happen." (Fourth seal 21/3/63).

You stated concerning part of this identification, that you are not sure if the new name is revealed and that you must search it out in the Word. It is highly possible that you will get the same revelation like Coleman and other 'thunders' preachers who claim that the new name is 'Jesus, revealed Word of God' and the latest revelation: "Mrs. Jesus". However, ministers who believe that the new name is Jesus, Word of God etc., has produced nothing but sin and corruption under Mr. Coleman. I assume such, on the basis of your adopted misconception from Mr. Coleman, which I have evidently proven throughout this discourse.

7-4 "Watch the third pull then. It'll be absolutely to the total lost, but it will be for the Bride and the church." (Look Away to Jesus, 63-1229E).

E-36 "In the days when the Son of man shall reveal Himself from heaven..." He's revealing Himself now to the church for mercy. The next time He reveals Hisself is in destruction to those who's rejected the Message. (Will the Church go before the Tribulation 58-0309E).

44-6 The Gospel was preached to the doomed first before they went, without mercy...Been that way in every age; every age reject the message before judgment. Have they done it again? And have we now come to the spot that the Third Pull would return again to the lost eternally? ( Souls In Prison Now 63-1110m)

60 You know, the hour will soon arise when right among us the Holy Spirit will speak out like It did in Ananias and Sapphira? (Communion 65-1212).

205 When the church begins to get into its mighty power, when they have an Ananias and Sapphira. Yes, sir. You'll see when that holy church stands together in its power, positionally placed as sons of God, adopted into the family of God, powerful church standing there in its glory. (Manifested.sons.of.God 60-0518).

My scriptural persuasions may be insufficient at this present time, to convince all who are deluded by this heresy that 'the seventh seal/seven thunders was revealed in 1963', and I strongly believe that it will cause many to be numbered with the total lost. May the Lord have mercy upon you, pastor Michael and your panel of ministers, is my prayer.

In finality and general conclusion of all our previous discussions and the last compilation of questions on the subject: "Seventh seal/seven thunders", I hereby firmly state, in reiteration, that the seventh seal/seven thunders was not revealed by Brother Branham in 1963, and to proclaim that it was revealed is a damnable heresy, and the eight identifications of that ministry has further confirmed that your claims are erroneous, with all heretics who propagate such damnable heresy. If those were the real thunders, which you ministers proclaim, with shouts of acclamation, that the silence was broken in 1973, with which you are identified, the Bride would have already been perfected and the lost would have had the gospel preached unto them many years ago, but it is nowhere in sight. Therefore, I call you to repentance, as my brother, with other fellow ministers, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. We trust to spend eternity together is my great hope and prayer. Amen!

The following questions and answers were referred to us by faithful ministers from Zambia, Africa, who are in opposition to the "Puerto Rican Christ and dispensational Angel", named William Santiago, and his heresies, based in the Western world, the Caribbean, which were exposed on Exposition of Damnable heresies - Books Four and Eight. From portions of a letter documented here, it is understood that a ministers meeting was held with the effort to inoculate sincere ministers of the gospel message with poisonous venom of the mamba snake of sin and unbelief. (Paradox of God 61-1210).

"May the blessing of the Angel of the Covenant abide with you. We hope that the meetings at Ndola (Zambia) have been a blessing to your soul. As we know, God's Word will not find a resting place except in our souls.

As promised please find attached the answers to the questions that were raised at the meetings in Ndola

I also want to convey my words of thanks to you, then without you the meeting at Ndola would have not been the same. I also want to convey greetings to you from the Revs. Marin, Pinzon, del Corto,

We, as true ministers and defenders of the faith of Malachi 4: 5-6, Revelation 10: 7 and 3: 14, feel obliged to respond to the erroneous answers given to most of the questions that ministers asked in those meetings, or after the meetings, which were also documented and presented to them on a later date, and which were recently brought to our attention. We openly challenge the heretical answers that were given by an attached letter to the various ministers in Zambia. We admonish faithful ministers in that State, and other parts of the world, not to yield themselves to such damnable heresies. Be strong in the Lord and the power of His might, as we stand upon the Word and the purity of the message, in full support to all faithful ministers who stand against all perversions of the message and impersonations of the new ministry of William Branham, Malachi 4: 5-6.

We of the western world are familiar with Santiago's agents, his literatures, his heretical claims and his impersonations of the second coming of Christ. His agents in Trinidad are pleasant, with whom we have had communications, but we take our stand on the Word of God. Our major difference is this heresy, which we consider to be antichrist, satanic to the core and totally unfounded in the Scriptures and messenger's message. However, in our dialogues, we maintain a friendly dispossession, though they are deluded brethren. Some personally beliefs were expressed to us, that should Santiago fall down and die, that would prove that doctrine wrong. Though they are very zealous for their beliefs, and hard workers, compassing land and sea to make one proselyte, they were unsuccessful in deceiving much people in these parts and only have a handful of people following their misconception. Such disciples have denied the holiness message, which is evident by the corrupt lives that they lead, in total disrespect to the holiness standards set forth by the Word and the message. Jesus said, "Ye shall know the by their fruits." (Matthew 7: 16).

I will now proceed to expose the heretical answers which were given to the honest and sincere questions of our fellow ministers. For the convenience of our readers, the questions and answers, which we challenge and expose, each will be identified by a number.

Question # 1: "What is the difference between the five fold ministry of Ephesians 4:11 and Revelation 10:3?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "The Voice of Christ. Seals book: new version: page 442: question 22: first paragraph or old version(black cover): page 494: question 22: first paragraph."

Exposition of Heresy: As we observed on most of the answers given, they're very vague and much care is exercised in being not committed in expressing full details of doctrines upheld by Santiago and his agents. The agents failed to address the question scripturally and by the message, and has erroneously used a quotation which is only pertinent to the Body or Bride of Christ.

494-2 {230}21."Is the Bride of Christ and the Body of Christ the same?
Yes, sir. See?...When God give Christ His Bride (the Spirit gave the flesh, the Bride) He was pierced in the side under His heart, and water, Blood, and Spirit came forth; that become flesh of His flesh and bone of His bone. We are the flesh and bones; the Bride will be the flesh and bones of Christ, exactly. They are the... That is His Bride." (Questions and answers on the seals 63-0324M).

Question # 2: What are the Seven Thunders?

Santiago's agents' Answer: "The Voice of Christ. Seals book: new version: page 104& 105, paragraph 75, page 127: paragraphs 167 to 170, page 138; paragraph 258 (read paragraphs 256 .& 257 as well. Page 226: paragraphs 182 & 183. Old version: pages 108, 142, .155 & 253."

Exposition of Heresy: The answer given: "The Voice of Christ", failed to answer the question: "What are the seven thunders?" By casual examination of the supportive quotations, this erroneous answer is exposed. None of the following quotations explains the question, though a few of them speaks of what the thunders will accomplish. Page 108 speaks of the intercessory Lamb leaving His throne to return as King of kings, 142: the seven thunders for rapturing faith, 155: first seal thunder - the voice of Christ, and 253: seven thunders for Bride's revival.

Question # 3: "Yesterday you said Br. Williams is Jesus incarnated which was forerun by Br. Branham. Now the Word says when Christ is coming in secret with a mission of rapture/ taking the Bride. If Br. William is Christ incarnate and he is here on earth, is that not a contradiction of the Word of God?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "Seals book: new version: rage 273; 3rdparagraph Old version: page 307: 3rd paragraph."

307-2 {195} "But when our Lord appears here on earth, He will be riding on a snow white horse, and He will be completely, fully, the Emmanuel, the Word of God incarnate in a man. You can see how much difference there is in them. That's the difference though." (The Fourth Seal 63-0321).

Exposition of heresy: The impostor, Santiago, claims to be Jesus incarnated, and the quotation given speaks of Christ's return on a white horse with His Bride (Revelation 19). This Scripture speaks of the third coming of Christ after the rapture and tribulation period, when Christ returns as a Judge and King of kings. Santiago is not King of kings; the blood is yet on the mercy seat; therefore, Christ has not returned as a judge, and the event of the second coming of Christ must be fulfilled before the third coming. Therefore, he is found to be the antichrist upon a white horse. The prophet used Revelation 19 to expose the rider of the white horse under the first seal as an impersonator of Christ. (Seals pg. 159).

75-104"Christ comes three times. The first time He came to redeem His church. Is that right? The second time He comes to receive His church. The third time He comes with His church."(Questions and Answers COD 54-0103m).

Question # 4: "Br. William is the Cornerstone Prophet preaching the message for Rapturing Faith. Now what was the Third Pull for Br. Branham?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "Message "Look Away to Jesus' (preached on the 29 December 1963 in Jeffersonville, Indiana): pages 5, 6&7: paragraphs 36 to 52."

Exposition of heresy: Jesus Christ is the chief cornerstone. "And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone" (Ephesians 2:20). When a man claims to be the cornerstone prophet, he automatically claims that he is the incarnation of Jesus Christ in His fullness. After close examination of the quotations supplied to prove that Santiago is the cornerstone prophet, there is not a single hint that can be found. Thus, his claims of preaching rapturing faith is evidently disannulled. The emphasis of the prophet was to establish when we should expect the manifestations of the third pull in the fullness of its power, and that is at the boycott of the church. Since the seventh seal and seven thunders is the same revelation, the coming of the Lord, that ministry is to be broken to the public about the time that Jesus appears for the rapture. This imposter is exposed because he has entered the mission field in a public ministry before the appointed time, riding upon a black and white horse. The true ministry of Christ is ordained to drive him off the trail (And Knoweth it not 1965).

575-6 {392} "Here now, we find that the Sixth Seal has been opened to us; we see it, and we know that this Seventh Seal cannot be broke to the public until that hour arrives." (Seventh seal 6-024).

576-7 {398} "He omitted the revelation of this Seventh Seal. And here when the Seventh Seal, when He opened it, He also omitted it again. See? So we see that it is a complete mystery, therefore, the hour is not yet for these mystery to be known, therefore, we're this far and the rest of it will be known right around about the time that Jesus appears on earth again for His Bride." (Seventh seal 6-024).

Question # 5: "Would you make a brief commentary on the Capstone, Headstone and the Cornerstone? Are they different or are they the same?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "It is the same Thing: The Lord Jesus Christ."

Exposition of heresy: We refute this vague statement in answer to the question. The capstone and Headstone is the same; we agree with that. But to say that the cornerstone and the headstone is the same, is heresy. The cornerstone is the first coming of Jesus Christ which was rejected by the Jews and became the head of the corner. "Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner." (Matthew 21: 42). But the headstone is the second coming of Jesus Christ in the Bride, charity, love, Holy Spirit, outpouring of the Holy Spirit, evident from stature of a perfect man preached by Brother Branham.

"And in the evening time it shall be light, thats when Christ comes, the Holy Spirit. Jesus comes down and set himself at the Head of the Church then, and He will resurrect this Church being His own body. Then Peter says, first seven things, faith, virtue, knowledge, temperance, patience, godliness, brotherly kindness, and then the Love of God. Then the Love of God, the Holy Ghost, Christ in the Person of the Holy Ghost comes upon you in the true Baptism of the Holy Ghost…When a man possesses these kind of things then the Holy Ghost comes upon him." (Stature of a Perfect Man 62-1014M).

The following quote is what Brother Branham taught when he positionally placed headstone and cornerstone. Santiago's doctrine must evade the true meaning of this subject, because he is a powerless impersonator, and the capstone comes in dynamic power, and will surpass the power of Pentecost.

77 "But the cap on the pyramid was never put on… because it was a cornerstone, it was a headstone. In the church It was the cornerstone. In the full church, It was the Headstone. So It never did come. It was rejected: Christ. And It will come. And I believe that when It's coming, that the Church will shape into a place from justification under Luther, sanctification under Wesley, and the Pentecostal message; will bring the church to such a minority. And a ministry will be among those people till it'll be exactly the same ministry that Jesus Christ did. That'll bring Jesus and catch the whole thing away." (Standing in the gap 63-0623M).

"When a man or woman possesses this, then the Capstone comes down and seals them into the Kingdom of God which is the Holy Ghost."(Blasphemeous Names pg:23).

"But when that head and body unites together the full power of the Holy Ghost would raise her up just exactly, even the dead that died in Christ for hundreds of years."(What Shall I Do With Jesus That Is Called The Christ? - 1963).

Question # 6: "Is it geographically true to say Latin America is in the west of North America (Where Santiago is)?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "Latin America is in the west of the Earth. - Please see the Seals book: pages 522 to 523: paragraphs 402 to 407. Old version: pages 577 to 578: from 4th paragraph on page 577 to 2nd or 3rd paragraphs on page 578.

Please note that the Angel that was on the left of Br. Branham (Br. Branham in his theophanic body and he was likewise an angel), was coming towards the east. Latin America is towards the east of North America. Latin America and the Caribbean is a sub-continent with close to 500 million people that speak either Spanish or Portuguese. These people are having the ministry of that Angel (an Angel is a messenger) that was at the left of Br. Branham. They are having the last angel's Message as Br. Branham says."

Exposition of heresy: After close examinations of quotations used here to answer this question, there is not a single hint that the notable angel flew to Puerto Rico, and that the unknown language is Spanish or Portuguese, which his agents propagated personally to us, and is indicated in the answer to this question. This is a damnable, diabolical and satanic invention of intellectual giants of the message

Santiago and his agents don't even know their geography and much less, the interpretation of the unknown language. Therefore, the people are not having the last angel's message in Latin America. The notable Angel was the last angel in the constellation of the seven angels, which was associated with the seals. That was Christ and not Santiago. I defy this heresy that has taken the ministry of Christ and given it to that gentile dog, Santiago. Latin America, and Puerto Rico, by all geographical settings, are not east of America, but situated in the Caribbean near Venezuela and Haiti. So, his agents are also geographically lying and how much more about the truth of the thunders and the coming of Christ.

On the basis of this exposition, all the claims of Santiago and his agents are of non-effect, since the Angel never flew to Puerto Rico, and the unknown language is not Portuguese or Spanish, for both languages are known languages, but Brother Branham specified "Unknown". In comparison to known and unknown tongues, the former is tongues of men, and the latter, tongues of angels, which the man, Brother Branham, could not understand.

Question # 7: "On the form we have filled, underneath, it says the "Voice of the Cornerstone". Who is the "Cornerstone referred to? Jesus Christ or William Soto Santiago? For we must be "IN THE VOICE OF..."

Santiago's agents' Answer: "It is referred to Jesus Christ."

Exposition of Heresy: His agents answered this question in few words to hide the claims of Santiago. At the same time, they gave the answer, "Jesus Christ". Their beliefs are that Jesus Christ is resident in the Puerto Rican impersonator, who they claim is the cornerstone prophet and the voice of the Archangel. Such claims contradicts the Word of God, and the claim that Santiago is the second coming of Jesus Christ, since the cornerstone represents the first coming of Jesus Christ, and the Capstone, His second coming. This is an antichrist doctrine from the pit of hell. According to their doctrine, we have blasphemed our way for speaking against their christ. But, I assure all message believers and the rest of the world, that it is a total impossibility to blaspheme the Holy Ghost by exposing the false anointed ones in endtime.

Question # 8: "The Angel of the Lord Jesus Christ who is materializing now in William, does it mean William pre-existed?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "Every child of God has pre-existed in his/her theophany. (Job: chapter 38: verses 4 to 7)."

Exposition of heresy: These shameless heretics have not spoken one word in denial of this question and its contents, but simply evaded it by quoting Job 38: 4-7, but they regard Santiago and have elevated him in a position higher than these sons of God, since they believe him to be the Angel that revealed the writings of the book of Revelation to John the divine. Since that angel was a man, a prophet among the brethren, they cannot believe that until they believe the pre-existence of Santiago. Revelation 22: 16 is also quoted by his agents to establish the international ministry of Santiago. They stress the word, "Churches". This is not speaking of multitude of churches in the present world, but of the church ages as at the end of every church age message, the message was addressed to the churches, example, Revelation 3:22: "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

Question # 9 : "If William was there when Branham was preaching as his message, why, he did not introduce him or know him?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "Seals book: new version; page 506, paragraphs 275 and 276, an.d page 523, paragraph 407. Old version: pages 560, last paragraph and page 561, 2nd paragraph. Page 578; 2nd and 3rd paragraphs."

Exposition of heresy: Quotations supplied, failed to answer this question. The true answer is because Santiago is an antichrist and not Christ. It is a lie to say that he was there in theophany form, and Brother Branham introduced him.

Question # 10: "In the morning Quotation of the Seventh Seal we saw that only Thunders are the mystery; has this Angel revealed them?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "The Thunders (7th Seal = 2nd Coming of Christ) are revealed by the Holy Ghost to give the Bride Rapturing Faith."

Exposition of heresy: This statement failed to address the question, and is saying what the thunders are supposed to do. Brother Branham said that it was not revealed

567 (1) "Now, what this great secret is that lays beneath this Seal, I do not know. I don't know it. I couldn't make it out. I couldn't tell it, just what it said. (New Ed. Page 512 (322-323)).

568 (2) "When will it be, Brother Branham?" I cannot tell you.... One of the mysteries of that Seal, the reason it wasn't revealed, it was seven thunders that uttered their voices. (New Ed. Page 513 (335-336)).

It is true that the notable angel held the seventh seal/seven thunders, but He did not reveal it, and one sure thing, he was not Santiago in spirit form

Question # 11: "Brother, if this Angel is greater with these offices or gifts till he is Jesus Christ incarnate. What are the vindications of Christ Jesus in Him? For Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "His Message. It has always been Jesus Christ in his messengers."

Exposition of heresy: Any heretic can quote the same as the vindication of his heresy. Santiago's agents must lay heavy emphasis on his message as the vindication, because he is a powerless impostor on the field in a public ministry. (St. John 14: 12 "…the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these…", Mark 16: 15-16 "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel… And these signs shall follow them that believe".)

"And any people that is truly the Body of Jesus Christ (the true church) will manifest the same works as did Jesus and the Pentecostal church because the same Spirit will be in them. Any other church that does not have the Spirit and the manifestations is going to have to account to God." (Church Ages page 250).

The public ministry of Jesus Christ in His first coming was vindicated by the Word, message and signs and wonders. The public ministry of Jesus Christ in His second coming through the Bride, will have greater vindications.

E-62 "I believe that the church of the living God is moving into a sphere now that's going to shake the whole world…Ask anything that you will, and it shall be given unto you...The sick will be healed by a word; the blind will see; the deaf will hear; the dead will be raised up; and the power of God will shake the world with the church of the living God…I believe it's going to strike the church of God soon, and it's going to start a revival that'll shake the world. I believe it." (Speak to this mountain 59-1123).

"…the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angel. In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God…Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints." (2 Thessalonians 1: 7-10).

Question # 12: "William Soto Santiago, How can we identify him to be the messenger of the Cornerstone? Who is he?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "By the Message. He is a believer of Jesus Christ, purchased by the blood of Jesus Christ and he is an instrument used by Jesus Christ. (Revelation 22:6 and Rev. 22:16)."

Exposition of heresy: The answer given is sly like a mongoose stealing a chicken in Puerto Rico. That vindication can be applied to any repentant sinner, and to further claim that he is Revelation 22: 6 & 16, is antichrist, and anybody can claim the same as a vindication and identity of Christ.

Question # 13: "What exactly are you telling us about Br. William; Is he a prophet? Or Jesus incarnation?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "He is a prophet. A prophet does not speak of himself and comes with the anointing of Christ."

Exposition of heresy: Deuteronomy 18: 15-18, speaks of the vindication of a prophet. What he speaks must come to pass. In another place it is written that if that prophet say let us worship other Gods, we should not fear him. This impostor has made himself Jesus incarnated, but they do not want to openly admit this heresy publicly, thus to evade the question, he likely said that he is a prophet, because the Messiah to Israel, Moses said, would be a prophet, Deuteronomy 18. The Answer that follows, the question, 'What is his message?' is erroneous. Matthew 24:31 is here explained by Brother Branham, it's the gathering of the nation of Israel.

576-5 {397} "Now, His coming, and the hour of His coming, when the destruction of the earth... You know, he said there, "What will be the sign of the coming of the end of the world?" In Matthew 24, there where they asked Him that question, He went down to that. He told about Israel being gathered as a nation in the 31st verse of Matthew 24:31". (Seventh Seal 63-0324

The scripture specified "Angels", Plural, and not one angel Santiago. "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other". (Matthew 24: 31).

Question # 14: "Will this Angel be Elijah and Moses?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "Yes, that is correct."

Exposition of heresy: The answer given here is erroneous, and contrary to the scripture. This proves that Santiago agents cannot count, not even 1 to 5, or know their ABC's. Revelation 11: 3 plainly states: "And I will give power unto my two witnesses (PLURAL), and they (PLURAL) shall prophesy. Brother Branham specified that there will be no Gentile prophets to the Jews. Santiago is a gentile. Jesus called the gentile dogs; they were represented as unclean beasts.

512-5 {334} 33. "Brother Branham, I understand that Elias must be three times. You tell us that he has been twice already, and will come again. Now, will the person that the spirit of Elias will be upon, also be of the two witnesses of Moses and Elijah?

No, no. He will be a Gentile, to the Gentile church. God sends always to His own people. He came to His Own, and His Own received Him not...When God was dealing with the Jews, there wasn't any Gentile prophets come. When God's dealing with the Gentiles, there's no Jewish prophets. When God turns back to the Jews, there'll be no Gentile prophets." (Que. & Ans.s on the seals).

Question # 15: "Will this messenger die?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "Yes, according to Revelation 11."

Exposition of heresy: This answer is heretical. This impostor will die, and perhaps very soon, but relating his death to Revelation 11 is fanatical. Revelation declares that the bodies of the two witnesses laid in the streets of Jerusalem for three and a half days. Santiago only has one body, not two!

(Rev. 11:3,4,10: 'I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth…these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.')

This is a dumb doctrine! To accept such heresy on the basis that God does not use two prophets at the same time, is erroneous. Two prophets were together used of God in several places in the scripture, but one always took the lead: Moses and Joshua, Elijah and Elisha, John and Jesus; one was subject to the other. It will be the same way in the ministry to the Jews.

Question # 16: "Will the 5th Elijah be a Gentile?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "Was Joseph a gentile? No, but he was found among the gentiles."

Exposition of Heresy: The answer given to this vital question is just a type and lacks scriptural evidence. This is the typical method of false prophets. They hide in the types and the shadows of the bible. These agents have no respect for Brother Branham's teachings, who made that doctrine very clear on the seals.

"512-5 {334} 33. Brother Branham…will the person that the spirit of Elias will be upon, also be of the two witnesses of Moses and Elijah?

No, no. He will be a Gentile (See?), to the Gentile church. God sends always to His own people...When God turns back to the Jews, there'll be no Gentile prophets. See? See what I mean? (Q&A On The Seals 63-0324m).

"67 Revelations 11 appears right there exactly in line with the Sixth Seal… this was to bring forth two witnesses, Moses and Elias, prophets; which the Jews only believe their prophets"." (Recognizing.Your.Day 64-0726m).

Question # 17: "Will he have a Message to the Gentiles?"

Santiago's agents' Answer: "Yes. The Eternal Gospel or Gospel of the Kingdom."

Exposition of Heresy: This is also a heresy with total disregard to the ministry and message of Malachi 4:5-6, who already broadcasted the message to the Gentile, as Elijah the prophet sent to the Gentiles. The fifth Elijah will minister only to the Jews according to Revelation 11. Moses will accompany him. So, Santiago arrived on a lame donkey, many years too late. He has proven himself to be an impersonator, heretic and antichrist. God never sent one messenger both to the Jews and Gentiles at the same time. Paul was sent to the Gentile, and Peter to the Jews. "For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles." (Galatians 2:8).

There is a notable difference between this impostor and others. They try to impersonate certain individual prophets in the Bible or Christ Himself. This impostor is not contented with doing so, but is like Lucifer. He desires first, to be like the most high God and ascend above the clouds and sit upon the mount of the congregation, yet he is not satisfied, that his zeal has eaten up his knowledge, in so much that he desires to be Moses and Elias to the Jews, though he be a gentile dog.

In all the decades of preaching the gospel, and answering questions, it's the most heresies that I have ever read on two sheets of paper. The questions are beautiful and to the point and in some opposition to this heretic and his heresies. But the answers are the worst that I have ever encountered, full of subtility, craftiness and deception. For a minister to accept, preach and establish such heresies, he must be totally ignorant of the scriptures, the message of Malachi 4:5-6, and Revelation 10:7. Any lay-member who reads Brother Branham's message knows better than to believe such antichrist doctrines. Certain men are born unto this condemnation, to be used as vessels of dishonour, and deceive many souls to the end that they may be lost. After such exposition of the erroneous answers given to the sincere questions of the ministers, I trust that every true servant of God who reads this article may quickly turn from such heresies and come back to the purity of the message of Malachi 4:5-6.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (St. John 14:1-14).

The revelation of the Godhead is the greatest revelation in the Bible, and the Prophet of God called it the revelation of supreme deity.

309-1 "If people can't see the TRUTH of the Godhead, but fight it; they can't ever see the rest of the truth because the REVELATION IS JESUS CHRIST IN HIS CHURCH AND HIS WORKS IN THE MIDST OF THE CHURCH FOR THE SEVEN AGES." (Church Ages Book ).

332-3 "Christ did not come down to make Himself known. He did not come to reveal the Son. He came to reveal and make known the Father. He never talked about two Gods; He talked about ONE God. And now in this last age, we have come back to the capstone revelation, the most important revelation of Godhead in the whole Bible, that is, JESUS IS GOD, HE AND THE FATHER ARE ONE: THERE IS ONE GOD, AND HIS NAME IS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST." (Church Ages Book).

So now, we are settled in our minds concerning the Godhead. I want to state here that when we say "Godhead" we are not speaking of three persons in the Godhead as the Trinitarians. When we say "Godhead" we are speaking of God who is one God. So, man's quest and his desire of the ages is to know who is God, as evil, wicked, mean, adulterous, fornicators, sodomites, as they are. He desires to know who is God. Because of that quest, desire and longing in the heart of man to know who is God, who made the world, who made the trees, who made the ocean, who made the sun, the moon, the stars etc., religions were formed.

Some are so proud that they would not address Him as God. I think it was Einstein the Jewish scientist, he came to a certain spot in his scientific research, he claimed to be an atheist, and then he bounced into something, too ashamed to call it God, he said, "there is a great center of the universe, that if a man contact that great center, there is no limits to his power," and that is so true. I am here to express, this morning, to this congregation and to my brothers and sisters wherever this message may go, that everything in the whole universe, both heaven and earth revolves around God. And that's the great center of the universe that Einstein was ashamed to call God. But we are not ashamed of our Creator. For our Bible said, that "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth," and "nothing is impossible to Him". Therefore if we can contact God, then our powers will be limitless.

67 "If Einstein had only had the spiritual application, as he had the physical application, as he studied the laws of light and so forth, he could've told us something. When I heard his message on that great center somewhere into the skies, that ever contacted with that center, you could create earths, do anything that the power would be unlimited." ( Christ Revealed In His Own Word 65-0822m).

However, you cannot contact this centre of the universe by scientific knowledge. But you contact the centre of the universe through faith, prayer and the Word of God. There is going to be a super church on earth, right here in this end time, and it will prove, by a group of people, that they contacted the centre of the universe. "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." (St. John 1:3). "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." (Colossians 1:16-17). Away with science, away with evolution; it's of the Devil. Its of Satan. We believe in creation, not evolution. We believe that God created. So it was the quest of man throughout all the ages to know who is this God. And if he don't call that one "God". He is trying to find out about the power that brought all things into existence, even though he is ashamed to call it God. He wants to find out how the world came into existence and where he himself came from. As a result, of this quest religions were formed. From the Garden of Eden, religions were formed. And all religions are based around that same fact, who is God? How to worship Him and how to please this God.

So, religions were born on account of this quest. You say "why would a man have such desire and quest?" He was made in the image of God and when God made him, He made man a creature of worship, to worship almighty God. If you don't worship the eternal spirit then you are going to worship wood and stone. You are going to worship the creature more than the creation. But you will worship something because you were born as a creature of worship. Any man who is sane wants to know where he came from. And he might go back and say, "I came from mother and father." Where did mother and father come from? He wants to trace the genealogy; it is in man to do that. There are people who don't know their fathers because of loose living. It worries them to death. "Who am I? Who is my father? Who is my mother?" They live a life of longing and great quest to find out who are their real fathers and mothers. As in the natural, so in the spiritual, we are sons and daughters of God. And it is in the heart of man to find out who is his creator. Where he came from? What is he doing here? And where is he going after this?

The only book in the whole world that answers those three questions is the Bible. So the reason for religions is because of this quest, the reason for cults and isms, the reason for idolatry is that man in himself through his intellect is trying to figure out God. Who is God? What he looks like. Now we could take a range of Scriptures from Genesis to Revelation to prove this. We are on the subject of the Godhead. Man's quest to know who is God, were long before the Bible was written. The Bible was only written by Moses, about three thousand years ago. People lived and worshipped God before the Bible was written. We are speaking of the Scriptures in the light of the Godhead, and this is where the confusion is. The Bible was so written, to confuse the intellect and to hide the revelation of God from the wise and the prudent and also to reveal it to the babes and the sucklings, such as would learn. "That's a hard thing preacher for you to say". I know, but Jesus said that,

"Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them." (Matthew 13:13-15).

). The Bible is written about the Godhead, the understanding of God, of who He is, to hide this revelation from the proud. The intellectuals like Cain, and to reveal it unto the humble in heart like Abel. Jesus plainly said so, through the Scriptures; I don't have time to argue. Now look how confusing the Scriptures could get be the subject of who God is and the Godhead. I would just name these things out to you.

We are told in Genesis 1:1 - "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." That word is translated from Elohim to Lord, which means the self-existing one. In the Book of Colossians and in St. John. In Colossians 1:16-17, it says: "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." As we just read in the Book of St. John 1: 3,10, that our Lord Jesus Christ created all things: "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made… He was in the world, and the world was made by him and the world knew him not." But in Genesis 1, it tells us that God did it. This is very confusing to the intellectual man. Because the same Bible says that there was only one creator. Not two, not three. One creator. We read in our Scriptures in Genesis 11, that man tried to build a great tower and he was trying to reach to Heaven, as they are trying to reach the heavens today with the rockets. And about that time, God came down and he stopped the building of the tower of Babel by changing their tongue and their language.

We read over in the Scripture there were three men that came to Abraham on time. And one out of the three men said, "I have come to fulfill the promise that I have made unto thee." Abraham washed his feet, gave him milk and butter, and gave him meat to eat. And then he disappeared. But the Bible said they were three men, spoke nothing about wings, but Abraham under revelation looked out to the man in the middle and bowed himself down to him and said, "My Lord." That word is translated 'Elohim'.

Then, we see that a man went to sleep one time, and about four in the morning a man came down and wrestled with him, and he won the fight. All that he remained with was a lash on his hip that caused him to limp from that time on. And when the fight was over, he said, "Tell me your name." He said," I can't tell you my name, seeing that it is a secret, but I am going to change your name from Jacob, a supplanter and scamp, to Israel, a prince with God. "Jacob said," I will name this place, 'Peniel" for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. He fought with a man, but Jacob said, he had seen God face to face, and did not die.

Abraham went to fight a battle, just with his servants he went down to a certain place, and defeated three kings with their armies. And on his way back he found out the source of his power, and the warrior that fought that battle down there, met a certain man dressed in priest garments, and he bowed himself down to him and was served communion. Melchisidec gave him bread and wine. Jesus said, after all the battles are over we shall sup together: "I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom." (Matthew 26: 29).

Abraham, no doubt, asked this priest, "Who is your father?" He said, "I have no father." He asked, "Who is your mother?" "I have no mother." He asked, "How old are you?" He said, "I have no beginning of days, neither end of life. But I am the priest of the most high God." He, no doubt, visited Melchisidec for many years, and then one day when he went up, Melchisidec was no more. He fulfilled his mission here on earth and vanished. Now, who is God?

Who is God? Is He just a spirit? Is He just an angel? Is He just Melchisidec? Is He the three men that came down to Abraham? Just who is God? We look back to Genesis when man sinned. The Bible says, God is a spirit. He created the world, but when man sinned God came walking. It means that this God has feet. They heard the voice of God walking in the garden. Brother Paul caught the revelation of who is this Melchisidec, King of Salem or Jerusalem, without father, without mother, without descent, without beginning of days or end of life (Hebrews chapter 7).

Then we read in our Scripture that an Angel came down upon a mountain called Sinai, and the whole mountain was a flame of fire. Nothing could touch it. Moses was permitted to go up. And the Bible said, "The angel of the Lord." It never called him God. God brought those people to Mount Sinai by Moses. There was a voice that echoed from that mountain, that would kill all the people. It was so fierce and terrible that the people cried out and said, let not God speak to us lest we die. Let Moses speak. He said, "You have rightly spoken. For I will raise up a prophet unto thee, Him shall ye hear in all things. Whosoever shall not hear him shall be cut off from amongst the people." My beloved, can a man read the Scriptures with all these accounts and figure out in his intellectual mind who is God? Can he figure out the Godhead? No it must be revealed to him. It must be revealed.

What do you mean revealed preacher? God must supernaturally tell you who He is? Is He Sai Baba today in India? Is he the Pope sitting in the Vatican? Is he Lawrie who claimed to be the tenth incarnation of Vishnu and Jesus Christ? Can the intellectual mind figure it out? That was not sufficient. Man's quest, he wanted to know God. He was revealed through the prophets. Yes, they all believed in one God but who is He?

The Jews held to the fact that He is one God. "Hear O' Israel, your God is one God." The first commandment of the ten says, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." One God, who is He then? Yes we have one father, but who is He? You could have a father and know you have a father, but don't know who He is. Never seen him, never heard him. But you heard about him. After all what went on in the Scripture and all the accounts, it confused the greatest prophets, the greatest men. But then there was a promise in the Bible that told us that there was a prophet that was going to come, a messiah, that is going to come. The relationship of that messiah to God will be God hiding in a man.

Then, in the New Testament, in the book of Matthew 1: 23, it says:

"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6).

"Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." (Isaiah 7: 14).

This prophet that was prophesied to come, he was a baby, born in a manger, he was supposed to be God veiled in human flesh, but he came crying on a manure pile. Even more confusing to the understanding of the Godhead. It is more complicated than anytime in human history for the end time people, and believe it or not, that revelation is so confusing today that it ties in together the second coming of Jesus Christ, hidden under the seventh seal and the seven thunders.

I am not saying that the teachings of the Godhead alone was under the seventh seal. I am saying that the second coming of Christ is under the seventh seal, but it has its foundation in the Godhead. And people that don't understand the Godhead will miss the second coming of Jesus Christ. Because the second coming of Jesus Christ has its foundation in the Godhead. If you miss the Godhead you will miss the second coming of Jesus Christ.

So, I think that this brother and evangelist, has done well. I think that he has already sensed that the teaching of the Godhead is fast going away from the people in the message. And he knows that unless they understand the Godhead, they cannot be saved by the message of Brother Branham. When we speak of the revealing of the son of man in the end time, Luke 17:30, you are talking about a revelation that has its foundation in the Godhead. When we speak of 1Thessalonians 4:16 - "And the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with the shout and with the voice of the Archangel and the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise." We are talking about the second coming of Christ which has its foundation in the Godhead. When we talk about Revelation 10:1 standing on earth today with an open book in his hand, we are talking about something that's connected with the Godhead.

Unless a man humbles himself and become as a little child, he shall in no wise understand. From the picture that I just painted, from Genesis to the Book of Revelation 10:1. Do you think that a man with his great intellectual understanding, PHD, LLD, his Bible training and knowledge is able to read that and figure out God? It is a total impossibility for a man to take the Bible in all his intellectualism and read those Scriptures and get the revelation.

Can a man with his big brain, intellectual understanding, all his Bible knowledge and all his university education, take this Bible and figure out God? When you try to figure out God you are trying to figure out the greatest revelation in the Bible. Who is greater than God? Is there anybody? Then he is the greatest revelation. God is the greatest revelation. Therefore to know God, is the supreme revelation, the highest revelation. And to know God is eternal life. Anytime the Devil takes away the revelation of the Godhead from you, he will give you death. Satan knows that. "In him was life; and the life was the light of men." (St. John 1: 4). To know God is life. For Satan to bring death to the people, he injects false interpretations into the hearts of men, to give them the wrong understanding of who God is. If he could take away from the people the true understanding of God, he can bring them death, and that was Satan's strategy from the beginning to bring death to man.

Right in the Garden of Eden, he pretended to know more about God than Adam, and he told Eve, "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil" (Genesis 3: 1-5), and she fell for his interpretation. Only when she fell for that interpretation, she brought death. For a man to take this Bible and try to figure out God is to go nuts. And right in this age, hundreds of people around the world who tried to figure out this revelation called the son of man, the seventh seal/seven thunders, went mad. And you are witnesses here. You cannot figure out God, you cannot figure out this revelation. You cannot figure out 1Thessalonians 4:16. You cannot figure out Revelation 10:1. You cannot figure out Luke 17:30. It is going to put you in the crazy house. It comes by divine revelation. And the revelation comes to the simple in heart. The honest in heart. Forgetting your intellectualism. Forgetting your big brain, forgetting all what you know, forgetting how smart you are upon this earth. Humble yourself and say Lord reveal yourself to me. Life is wrapped up in knowing God.

"Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?...And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." (Matthew 16: 13-18).

Anyone that does not have a clear cut understanding on the son of man in this age is not founded upon the rock of divine revelation. You are not even born again. Much less to have the seal of God and be qualified for the rapture. To know God is life. But to try to know Him friends, in the picture that I just pointed out from Genesis to Revelation, with your intellectual mind, is insanity.

So, the question of the Godhead. There in only one way to know God then. And I want to read that. Spiritual things take time. You don't come in here, with your work and your wife and your troubles in mind friend. You wait upon God, that's where your strength is. Let me tell you how you will know who God is. After all that I pointed out to you and all the prophets that God sent, and all the revelations that he revealed Himself as Melchisidec and an angel and everything though the Scripture, the key to understanding the Godhead, and the Scriptures that are to be fulfilled in the end time, it is all wrapped up in this:

"All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father, neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him." (Matthew 11:27).

Do you see the key to understanding God? And that was played out in Matthew 16 when the Lord asked Peter, if he understood who he is. And Peter caught that revelation. How do you know God children? You know God by divine revelation. You get revelation by humbling your heart. Not arguing the scriptures. Not arguing with the word, not by "if's" and "but's" and "how's" and "when's". That is by submitting yourselves to God.

Now, in all my thirty-five years of ministering the word there was only a few times that I was ever engaged in any argument concerning the Godhead. But I taught the Godhead to you for decades, keeping it right on the middle line. You say, "Why don't you go and argue about the Godhead?" Beloved, if you will argue with a man on the Godhead, although you win that argument you cannot show that man who is God, because you cannot give him a divine revelation. It takes God to reveal it to him. You are wasting your breath, because he is seeing two persons and three persons or five persons, and you are trying to show him something that God revealed to you. You cannot impart your revelation to that man, it must be revealed. Don't waste your time; don't engage in arguments concerning the Godhead. If you don't waste time in arguing the revelation of the Godhead, how much more you should not waste time in arguing 1 Thessalonians 4:16, Revelation 10:1 and Luke 17:30, the revealing of the son of man.

If a man doesn't catch the basic understanding of the Godhead which was brought unto us today by Malachi 4, William Branham, there is no way for him to get a revelation of the son of man. The Godhead is the basic foundation of the other Scriptures, Luke 17:30, 1Thessalonians 4:16 and Revelation 10:1 in connection with the opening of the seven seals, which is all summed up under the seventh seal. We have men that don't even understand the Godhead that are trying to preach the seventh seal. Isn't that dumb? There are men today that don't even know if God is one, two or three; following this message, trying to preach Revelation 10:1 and Luke 17:30. They've got to understand the foundation. The foundation is to understand the basic teaching of the Godhead and if you don't understand the basic teaching on the Godhead, how can you understand the Scriptures that are to be fulfilled in our time and our age? How can you understand the seventh seal and seven thunders?

I hope you can understand that this morning, I know you do, but I hope that everybody could understand. This church was placed upon the correct revelation of the Godhead for decades; it is a thing of the past. What we are centralizing our attention on now, is to understand Luke 17:30, Revelation 10:1, 1 Thessalonians 4:16, because we have the foundation set. Somebody might say, "But preacher, God sent a prophet, Malachi 4, and he brought unto us the Godhead, what is the sense of you answering those questions and having to straighten those things, because we already have the revelation?" Beloved, a prophet could be standing there with the correct revelation and if you don't have a revelation of the Godhead you will argue with him. And they did in the days of Brother Branham and they did in the days of Paul. Now hear this golden Scripture. You say, "Were there arguments in the days of Jesus? "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh" (I Timothy 3:16). The controversy in the issue of the Godhead? And Paul found the same subject in his time and his day and he wrote a letter. He could not reach down there in time, so he sent a book. He could not accept the invitation. He sent an epistle and he said, "Christ is the mystery of godliness, without controversy, "without argument. Let me give you the revelation of the Godhead. Without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness; God was manifested in the flesh." Brother Paul's revelation spoke of both God, who is a spirit, and a body of flesh. John's revelation blends in with Paul's revelation. "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God, and the word was made flesh." All of these revelations must be blended together.

It is no great thing that there arose controversies around the Godhead, because while that revelation was being given out by Jesus, given out by Paul, there were controversies. Look at the great apostles that were with them. You say, "Is it the quest of man to know who God is." After they followed Jesus for three and a half years, here was Phillip saying, 'Lord, show us the father'. Is it the desire of man, is it the quest of man? He said, "Show us the father and it will suffice us." Now look at the thing, the Lord is going to speak: "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. JOHN 14:9-10). It is in the heart of man. He wants to know who is God. And even after following Jesus Christ for three and a half years they still did not have revelation of the father. "But, how could this man be the father? His mother is Mary, he was born like everybody, they had diapers tied on him, he dirtied his diapers…" It wasn't ice-cream you know. "…and this man is saying that he is the father." The key Scripture here to divide the spirit from the flesh is found in 1 Corinthians 12:3: "…no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost."

I have read the accounts of several brethren who tried to explain the Godhead and I notice that they bypassed that most vital Scripture in 1Corinthians 12:3, in trying to explain the Godhead, a golden Scripture: "…no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost." If you are without the Holy Ghost my friend and Jesus told you that he is God, you will believe that he is an antichrist, that is, without the spirit. And without a revelation, when Jesus tells you he is God, you will make the body of flesh God. No man can say that Jesus is the Lord but by the Holy Ghost. In other words, you will have to get a revelation before you could divide that flesh from the Spirit, and only God could give you that revelation, otherwise when you hear about son of man and you hear Brother Branham say son of man is revealed, you will get the idea that Brother Branham is the son of man or that I am trying to tell you that William Branham is Elohim, or that I am trying to tell you that this certain man is God, and right there unbelief will come into your heart, because you are trying to understand that this flesh is God. The next thing, you will hug up the man, William Branham, and you will say, "This is Elohim himself." That makes you an idolater. That is when you try to use your brain.

If you do get a revelation of it you are able to put so much to the flesh and so much to the spirit. The real revelation is right in the middle, not to the right, not to the left, but the real understanding of the Godhead is right in the middle of these two things, the flesh and the spirit. So controversies began back there and it is no strange thing that controversies are in the message today. I am coming to your question right now my brother. Let me show you how far that such controversies and figuring out who is God could take a man.

In that age of the first coming of the Lord when God revealed who he is, he left the earth, went away, men understanding was so twisted that in time those that claimed to be Christian made a man called the Pope the Christ, that is how far the intellectual mind could carry you by trying to figure out who is God. Then it was time to crown this man and they crowned him after 325AD. Intellectual men trying to figure out who God is, crowned a stinking Pope as God; an adulterer, fornicator, Devil in human flesh, and made him God. And when you try to figure out God you will make the Devil God. And do you know that is the plan of the Devil, to sit in the temple of God, being worshipped as God. How on earth can he cause you to worship him until he has a heresy going out to make people believe that he is God? There's got to be a heresy that goes out first to convince people that this certain person is God, and the Devil hides in them. Oh merciful God!

Now this is the great controversy that arose between two great leaders at Nicea Rome, called Arius and Athanasius, over who God is and who Christ is, and they were gathered together in what you called the Nicene Council, from history, and both of them were wrong. The revelation of the Godhead was already lost. One was a little more correct than the next but both had it twisted. That revelation of the Godhead being lost completely throughout the dark ages, the only man who brought back the true revelation of the Godhead was the man called William Branham. God sent a prophet today and anointed by the spirit of Elijah and he alone knew who God is. I see Bible Schools pass away, organizations pass away, cults pass away, isms pass away, all the evangelists pass away. Branham alone had the revelation of the Godhead. Say what you want, do what you want. He alone had it. Don't tell me you had life. You were serving you "organization, and to know God is eternal life".

The great controversy of the Nicene Council was on the Godhead. Man from Genesis always argued about God and who he is. They ended up at Nicene Council. The only man that was sent today after that Nicene council who knew who God is, was William Branham. Everybody in organization believes that he is three gods. And you had what you call the oneness people, the assemblies of God and the Jesus only. They went off-course. Why? Because Revelation 10:7 was to reveal the mysteries, and one of those mysteries was the Godhead. That had to come first before the opening of the seals. That had to come first before 1Thessalonians 4:16 was fulfilled, and before the revealing of the son of man. I wish everybody could catch that.

Now, why is the Devil trying to pervert the Godhead? If he could pervert the Godhead and deceive you, you will miss the revelation of the seventh seal because that's the foundation. You will miss Revelation 10:1. So, down with the heretics who are crowing out there in Nigeria, India, Africa or in America. They are puzzled on the Godhead and don't know what they are talking about. They have no thunders, they have not opened the seventh seal, they know nothing about God and his second coming. They don't know anything about the second coming of Jesus Christ. If they are puzzled on the Godhead they are puzzled on the thunders. If they are puzzled on the Godhead they are puzzled on the seventh seal. If they are puzzled on the Godhead they are puzzled on Revelation 10:1, because the mystery of God was to reveal the Godhead and restore that revelation before the coming of the Lord.

Out of a pure revelation that Christ and the apostles delivered in his first coming, intellectual men, insane men with big brains, worked their brains to find out about God, and what Christ taught, and hybred the word with their own conception of idolatry. All of them came from idolatry and tried to figure out the Godhead and who God is. They came from the Roman religion, Romanism. They came from the Babylon religion and they produced the Pope; they produced "saints" that filled the Catholic Church.

It took 325 years for them to completely lose that revelation of the Godhead and make a man the Pope. From the latter part of Brother Branham's ministry, while Brother Branham was delivering the revelation of the Godhead, there was a bunch of people that arose and made Brother Branham God. It did not wait for 325 years, but just in a matter of months, a year or two years. Now, do you think that those people that arose and said that Brother Branham is the Lord Jesus Christ and Elohim, do you think that they understand the Godhead?

No! They could not understand the Godhead.

A few years passed and I call this man the model of impersonators, Lawrie; in just four or five years time, so twisted the word of God and misunderstood who God is, until he made himself the Lord Jesus Christ, the 10th incarnation of the Hindu god called Krishna, under the message. He claimed to be the king of kings, the Lord of Lords, the Lord Jesus Christ and the tenth incarnation of the Hindu god called Krishna. Lawrie came from a Hindu background with his idolatry and with that seed of idolatry, tried to figure out the message of the hour and he made himself "God, the king of kings". The problem why people cannot understand the Godhead in the message and the controversies that are coming up in the message concerning the Godhead is because they came as Trinitarians from the organizations and never changed their seed. That seed is getting hybrid into the message of the hour. They came as "oneness," they came as "Jesus only" and they hybrid that into the message today and they try to figure out the Godhead by intellectual understanding.

What caused Lawrie to make Jesus Christ a Hindu incarnation. Is because the seed of Hinduism never was plucked up. What caused these people to make Jesus, what they want him to be today and claim to be Christians. They never got the seed of their Trinitarianism out of the hearts of these preachers, in India, Africa, the Philippines or where this message is going to go, as long as you have a Trinitarian seed in you, you are not born again. He that believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God (1 John 5:1). That goes to show the fulfilment of Matthew 24:24. That shows how much more deceptive it is today in men claiming to be Christ. Back there, it took 325 years. Here, it took almost no time at all. I am dealing with who they idolized. It only took about five years from 1965, and they made a model impersonator called Lawry, "the king of kings". It goes to show the depth of deception that Jesus said, "If it were possible the very elect shall be deceived." The only thing to save the elect in this time is the correct revelation of the Godhead and putting that together with the revelation that was hidden in the seven seals; and unless you have a man with the divine revelation to preach to you, you will be lost.

Could you imagine that when that prophet was alive, men so missed the teaching of the Godhead that they made Brother Branham Elohim? That they made the name Branham the new name? That they bow down and worship Brother Branham? They baptized in his name, and that is still prevalent today. It is antichrist and of the Devil, even because men tried to figure out that with their natural minds. There isn't one of you inside of here could figure out God with your natural mind. If you don't have a revelation, bow down and beg God to give you a revelation. And anytime you think that you know something and you want to handle this message and handle what you are hearing here, it will put you in the crazy house. We have a history of it for the past thirty years and you are all witnesses. I want to nail that point right down. It is a total impossibility to preach the correct revelation and Revelation 10:1, the seven thunders, the seven seals, Luke 17:30, unless you correctly understand the Godhead. That is why God sent the revelation to the earth: firstly, because the Godhead is tied up in that revelation. No man can say that Jesus is the Lord but by the Holy Ghost, and no man knoweth the father but the son, and he to whom the son will reveal him. It takes God to reveal that to you. You are bouncing your head on ten-inch think iron bars when you try to figure out the seven thunders and the seventh seal. That is my foundation, preachers in Nigeria, India or wherever; that was my foundation that I just laid in order to help you with these questions.

Question # 35: "Some said that Jesus was born God Almighty from the womb. Some say that he became God after the scene at river Jordan when heaven and earth embraced each other, that's why he grew in wisdom as the Bible proclaim, that God grew in wisdom."

Answer: Heresy! Do you understand that claim? This heresy is saying that Jesus only became God when he received the baptism of the Holy Ghost at the banks of Jordan, and others are saying that he was born God. From your teaching, from your understanding, from your revelation, which one do you pick out as right? Was he born God or did he become God at the river Jordan? These great intellectuals, these heretics are mixing up two different things here. They are mixing up the Spirit and the word. We just read in St. John 1, that the word is God, and in St. John 1:14, it said that the word was made flesh. The word is God, and Jesus Christ was born the word of God. The word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us.

The Bible said, "In the beginning was the word…" It is speaking about Christ. "…and the word was with God…" It is speaking about Christ. "…and the word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us and we beheld his glory as the only begotten of the father, full of grace and truth." When he was born God on earth, he was also the son of God. The word was made flesh, which means that the word who is God was hiding in his son, Jesus Christ.

Isaiah 9:6 - "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, the mighty God, The everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace."

How many believe that? [Congregation says, "Amen!"] Take the Scripture for what it is. He was born Almighty God.

Isaiah 7:14 - "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son and shall call his name Immanuel."

There is no doubt about that, Matthew the scribe, interpreting that Scripture, he said, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." (Matthew 1:23). Jesus Christ was born Almighty God, crying on a manure pile and the prophet of God said it was a super sign, "Jehovah God crying on a manure pile". You talk about how God could fool people. "If that was God he would never be born in a stable." That was to fool the intellectual mind and to reveal it unto simple shepherds that will accept it. The angels came down and verified what I am teaching here: "This day is born unto you a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."

Who is He? He was born Christ the Lord. Capital L-O-R-D is translated 'Elohim'. The one that created the heavens and the earth is born today in a manger, was born Christ the Lord. He was born the Emmanuel. He was born the word of God upon the face of the earth. He never did become God, at the banks of Jordan. You're mad or what? The father indwelt him in the power of the Holy Ghost and endue him with power in order to begin His ministry at the banks of Jordan.

Heretical Article No. 88 : "Jesus was not born God - that is why He grew in wisdom"

Questions # 36: "Some are saying he did not have the spirit before the banks of Jordan, that is why he was not born God. That is why he grew in wisdom as the Bible proclaim that God cannot grow in wisdom."

Answer: Nobody said that God grew in wisdom Mr. Heretic. The Bible said that Jesus grew in wisdom but the All-Knowing God was in him because the one that was in him was the word, and the word is final. All wisdom, all knowledge and all understanding is in the word. I will tell you what you need: you need the Holy Ghost, for no man can say that Jesus is the Lord but by the Holy Ghost.

Jesus got strong in the spirit. He grew in wisdom, in stature and in favour with God and man, and while Jesus was asleep he that keepeth Israel neither slumber nor sleep. God never grew in wisdom. No, Jesus grew in wisdom and knowledge and understanding, because it was the body of flesh.

Question # 37: "Some said that he was an ordinary man that was used by God like other prophets of old. That was how God used him, as God used Brother Branham, that if we say that he is God Almighty, that there would be no reason to condemn those that call Brother Branham as Elohim."

How do we answer that? "Some say that he was an ordinary man."

Answer: I refute that. There are so many differences between the prophets and our Lord Jesus. None of them was born the Emmanuel. None of them was born the full word of God that was in the beginning with God. None of them had a virgin birth. Only Jesus had the virgin birth. These people have to be insane. These intellectual giants have to be trying to figure out the word of God. Oh, glory to God! He was not an ordinary man. He was born the everlasting sacrifice. He had no blood of the human race. He had God's blood running through his veins. "There is a fountain filled with blood, drawn from Emmanuel's veins. Sinners plunged beneath that flood and lose all their guilty stains." Jesus never had a germ from Joseph, neither a germ from any human being in him. Not even the egg of Mary. No! The germ was created and it became the blood of God. That is why the Bible said in Acts 20: 28: "He purchased the church with his own blood", speaking of God, even because of the blood that was created, because all mankind was polluted.

Jesus never committed sin but every prophet had a stain in his life. Everyone of them. So I won't even argue with this nonsense. You are insane to compare Jesus to the other prophets. You are insane to say that you cannot condemn the people who preach Brother Branham as Elohim, on that basis. You are wrong, and you need to repent. Whether you are the Jacksonites, Lawrie followers or whoever you are, you sound like insane people.

Question # 38: "Some were confused of him being the beginning of the creation of God as in Revelation 3:14 and can't reconcile the scripture with Colossians 1: 15 to 17."

Answer: Colossians 1: 15-17 says, "He was before all things before any creature was made and before any creation was made. He was there", and then, Revelation 3:14 is saying that Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God. This has become puzzling to those without a divine revelation, how He could be the creation of God one minute and how He could be the creator at another time. Is He the creator or the creation? So this has caused a problem there, and the question is asked here, to reconcile both scriptures for the help of the brethren. Again, we come back to our basic teachings over here: "No man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost" (1 Corinthians 12:3).

You've got to have a revelation to bring the scriptures together. If you think that you are so intellectual and you want to put these scriptures together, there are other scriptures you won't be able to reconcile with it. You won't be able to bring them together. One minute you will make Him a man, next minute you'll make Him God, and next minute you'll make Him anti-Christ. You say, "Anti-Christ?" Yes, the Jews were reading the scriptures all along, expecting Messiah, but they had the scriptures mis-interpreted, and having the scripture mis-interpreted, when Jesus came, they said, "You are Beelzebub." What brought that about? A wrong conception. Intellectualism.

Those were the most learned men in that age, as far as the scriptures are concerned and trying to figure out God from Genesis coming right down to Malachi. When God stood before them in human flesh, the Word made flesh; they looked on Him and said, "Thou art prince of the devils; you are Beelzebub." And here, a common fisherman stood there and Jesus asked him, "Whom do men say that I the Son of Man am? He said, "Lord, a lot of them say a lot of things. They say you are John the Baptist raised from the dead; you are Jeremiah or one of the older prophets." He said, "But whom say ye that I am?" He said, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God." Jesus said, "Flesh and blood hath not revealed that unto you but my father which is in heaven hath revealed that revelation unto you. God just whispered to you, who is standing before you," "Upon this rock shall I build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it". Oh glory to God!

Let us put the prophet of God's word into this and hear him reconcile the two scriptures. Brother Branham is interpreting the beginning of the creation of God (Revelation 3:14):

336-2 "The Beginning Of The Creation Of God." That is Who the Lord Jesus says He is. But those words don't mean exactly as they sound to us. Just taking them the way they sound has made some people (in fact multitudes of people) get the idea that Jesus was the first creation of God, making Him lower than Godhead. Then this first creation created all the rest of the universe and whatsoever it contains. But that is not right. You know that doesn't line up with the rest of the Bible. The words are, "He is the BEGINNER or AUTHOR of the creation of God." Now we know for a surety that Jesus is God, very God. He is the Creator. John 1:3 "All things were made by Him, and without Him was not any thing made that was made." He is the One of Whom it is said, Gen. 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth". Also it says in Ex. 20:11, "For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day. See, there is no doubt that He is the Creator. He was the Creator of a FINISHED PHYSICAL CREATION."(Laodicean Church Age).

These scriptures are verifying that Jesus was the very creator of the physical creation. That is what Philippians is saying and also Colossians.

336-2 "Surely we can see what these words mean now. To have any other interpretation would mean that God created God. How could God be created when He, Himself, is the Creator? "But now He is standing in the midst of the Church. As He stands there revealing Who He is in this last age, He calls Himself the "Author of the creation of God". This is ANOTHER CREATION. This has to do with the church. This is a special designation of Himself. He is the CREATOR of that church. The heavenly Bridegroom created his own bride. As the Spirit of God, He came down and created in the virgin Mary the cells from which His body was born. I want to repeat that. He created the very cells in the womb of Mary for that body. It was not enough for the Holy Spirit to simply give life to a human ovum supplied by Mary. That would have been sinful mankind producing a body. That would not have produced the "Last Adam". Of Him it was said "Lo a body hast Thou (Father) prepared for Me." God (not Mary) provided that body. Mary was the human incubator and she carried that Holy Child and brought Him to birth. It was a God-man. He was the Son of God. He was of the NEW creation. Man and God met and joined; He was the first of this new race. He is the head of this new race.

Colossians 1:18, "And He is the head of the body, the church: Who is the beginning, the first-born from the dead; that in all things He might have the pre-eminence." II Corinthians 5:17 "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation, old things have passed away, behold all things are become new." There you can see that though man was of the OLD ORDER or creation, now in UNION WITH CHRIST, he has become the NEW CREATION of God. Ephesians 2:10, "For we are His workmanship CREATED IN UNION WITH CHRIST JESUS unto good works." Ephesians 4:24, "And that ye put on the NEW MAN which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness." This New Creation is not the old creation made over, or it could not be called a new creation. This is exactly what it says it is, "NEW CREATION". It is another creation, distinct from the old one. No longer is He dealing by ways of the flesh. That was how He dealt with Israel."(Laodicean.Church.Age).

Now, the prophet of God reconciling these two scriptures, because it seemed to be opposite. One in Colossians is saying that Jesus Christ is the Creator of everything, and He was the first born before all creation and was before all creatures. What is the puzzling thing here now is that Revelation 3:14 is saying that He is the beginning of the creation of God. The simple explanation to this that the prophet gave is that Revelation 3:14 is speaking and saying that Jesus is the first born of the new creation of mankind. All was born through sin and from mother and father. Jesus having the virgin birth he came into the world and a new creation started over, and He is the first born of the new creation. "If any man be in Christ he is a new creation old things are passed away behold all things are become new." So all that the bible is saying in Revelation 3:4 is that Jesus was the first member of the new creation and another one became the second member and the next one the third member, and the next one became the thousandth member and the next one became the 68th millionth member of the new creation. We are fitted in somewhere there. That does not change our Lord from being the very creator. No! When he came here and He had the virgin birth, God started re-creating man and never stopped. Right here today he is re-creating man by the spoken word of God just like He did Adam. How did He make Adam? By the spoken Word, How did he make Jesus? By the spoken Word. So, he was a new creation, and the old creation must die.

The new creation started with our Lord Jesus Christ from the virgin Mary and continued as the first one born from the dead. Born from the dead means his resurrection. And now, through Calvary and through the cross, you and I can become new creatures, not born from father and mother but born through the Spoken Word, and every person that is born again becomes a new creation. Somebody is speaking today and somebody is hearing and when you hear that and you receive a revelation of who God is, revealed as the Son of Man, you become a new creation.

The old creation, the old nature cannot understand this system. You take the carnal man, the intellectual man and a man that is not born again, the bible said He cannot understand the kingdom of God. The argument is over. So sometimes when I reach in a certain discussion, I have to turn around and say, "Are you born again brother?" Sometimes a man is honest enough to say, "I am not born again." I would say, "Then you don't know what you are talking about, you have no understanding, and if you have no understanding on the scripture, no understanding on the Bible, no understanding on the Godhead, and no understanding on the message, why argue with you? You are trying to preach something and say something and run a church without understanding. Except a man be born again he cannot understand the kingdom. He would fight the teachings on the kingdom. So it's a sign; until a man is born again, he needs to keep quiet, he needs to keep off the pulpit, and when a man will propagate these kind of heresies, he is not born again.

Question # 39: "Some cannot reconcile Colossian 1:15-17 with Revelation 3:14."

Answer: Very simple; Colossians is saying that He was before all things and all things were created by Him. That blends in with John the 1st Chapter and other scriptures, and it blends in with Genesis 1:1. Revelation 3:14 is simply telling you that He was the first one born right since the fall of Adam and He started a new generation. Didn't the bible say, "You are a chosen generation and a royal priesthood"? It started with our Lord Jesus Christ by the spoken Word from Mary's womb and from the resurrection of the dead.

Question # 40: "Are they two separate things?"

Answer: Sure, one cannot disannul the next, it has to confirm. So we are a new creation, a new generation, a royal priesthood. Now that is right in our Church Age, but you could read that and still be at a loss. It goes to show that you need some kind of a man with divine understanding and inspiration to even tell you what the prophet is saying. It works together. The revelation is channeled down through the prophet, comes down to the Five Fold Ministry and they break it down so the people of God could understand. You go fight with intellectualism and try to figure out even the message and you will end up with a pope in your hand; you yourself might be the Pope.

Heretical Article No. 90 : "Jesus was just a Logos in the form of God, and not the complete or entirety of God."

Question # 41: "Some said that he is just a Logos that went out of God. He was in the form of God, not the complete or the entirety of God. Philippians 2:5-6."

Answer: You talk about these heretics could bend the Word of God. "He was not Almighty, but was in the form of God."

I hope you understand the Brother's question? Some are rising up and trying to use Phillipians 2: 5-6, to show that the Logos, which is called the Word…"In the beginning was the Logos." Logos is the Greek or the Hebrew that carries a double meaning of both thought and word, In other words, it is saying, "In the beginning was the expression of God", which is speaking of Christ.

Now, these people know the teaching of Brother Branham and the Bible, but they are confused out here. "No man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost." When you are not born again, you must get confused. When you try to bring your denominational spirit into the message, you must get confused. When you come over with a Trinitarian seed, you must get confused with the Word of God. So, they are saying here now that the Logos that went out of God, he was not God Almighty, but was in the form of God. You talk about these devils. Brothers and sisters two seconds and you'll mash up their doctrine.

"In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word, which is the Logos, was what? [Congregation answers, "God!"]. He is still God. The Bible said that the Logos was God. That settles the issue for me. I don't have to go in no theological college. John 1:1 says that the Logos was God, and then after a time the Logos was made flesh and dwelt among us and we observed Him as the Son of God; God hiding behind his Son; so very simple. What on earth would they do again? These are men that are not born again and have no revelation of the Son of Man and claim to be preaching Thunders also, preaching Seventh Seal and claim to be preaching "the Coming of the Lord", and don't even understand the Godhead. They have the cart before the horse.

Do you see something inside of this question here and in this heresy? By saying that, they have made Jesus a lesser person in the Godhead. If He is not the Almighty and not God and He is a logos, then that is the same heresy that the Catholic Church started, and do you know that the Jehovah Witness doctrine says that Jesus is a mighty God but not the Almighty? So, this is Jehovah Witness' doctrine. Somebody probably was formerly Jehovah Witness and came over into this message with a Jehovah Witness seed, and cannot get that corrupted seed out from their heart. You want to divide God and make Him a second person in the Godhead - "Almighty God and a lesser God that is a secondary person?" Don't you see how they brought in the Trinity? Don't you see how they fit in the second person in the Godhead at Nicea Council? That spirit from the organizations came right here now and wants to divide Almighty God into two different parts, saying that Christ is a lesser God. He is not a lesser God, He is very God. I am saying He is very God and those are the words of the Prophet, that Jesus Christ is very God.

My friend, you must be able to say that by revelation. "No man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost." Anytime you go off on the flesh, you are going to confuse the scripture. In one tone, I could say that Jesus is God. I am speaking by revelation to people that have revelation. When He died at Calvary did God die? [Congregation says, 'No!'] Well, no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost will allow me to stop at Calvary when he died, and see and understand that He was a man and the sacrifice that was to be made for the world. What do you want to tell me, God died at Calvary? No, He never died at Calvary. I am saying that Jesus is very God, but then I have to stop at Calvary. God never died at Calvary. A man died at Calvary; the flesh died at Calvary. Sure. I guess that bothered Phillip a little bit: "Have I been so long time with you and you ask me, to show you the Father?", and he saw Him dying on Calvary. Boy, that was hard to figure out. "He told me He is the Father and He is saying there, 'My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?' Something is not blending here." You have to get a revelation.

Question # 42: "That is what they propagated, that He is our elder brother in eternity and go on to hand over the kingdom, according to 1 Corinthians 15: 24-28. Also see 'Conduct, Order and Doctrine' - page 325 para. 718. This article enclosed in here of the Godhead is from a staunch member of the elder brotherhood of Christ."

Answer: I have just one quote for them:

55 "Now, how fitting these gifts was to Christ's journey on earth, a baby born here on earth. And these gifts that the wise men brought Him, fitted just exactly His commission from God and His journey on earth. Now, the first thing: God. This was God; Jesus was God in the form of man. That's hard for people to swallow that, even today, that "He was God." And He... That's what He was. He wasn't nothing less than God. He was God manifested in flesh. He was the Creator in His Own creation. Now, that... He was the Creator in His creation, by the creation, for the creation. He was the Creator in His creation." (God's Gift Always Find Their Place 63/12/22).

That's the Prophet's words. He was God manifested in flesh. How on earth are you going to make Him a second person in the Godhead - under this message? How on earth could you make Lawrie God? How on earth could you make all these Antichrists in America, Canada, Nigeria, and all these people in Africa, God Almighty? You don't understand the Godhead, friend. Any man that makes himself God don't even understand the basic teachings of God. How on earth these false prophets could do that? Alright, hear this one.

Question # 43: "Some preach trying to make Colossians 2:2 the mystery, Christ as three entities, to make people to see them different from one another."

Answer: We would have to go to that. "For I would that ye knew what great conflict, I have for you and for them at Laodicea and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh; that their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ." Heretics are taking that scripture and dividing it into three. They say, "Here is the Bible speaking of God; second, it is speaking of the Father and third, it is speaking of Christ." Don't you see that this is a Trinitarian seed? This Trinitarian seed is working from the Pentecostal Church, from the Catholic Church, from the Baptist Church and from the Methodist Church, and they came right under the message, never emptied out, and picked up the books and tapes and went on preaching without emptying themselves of such heresies. You cannot interpret this. Word and you are not yet born again.

You cannot get a revelation of the things in this message unless you are born-again. You try to figure out the Word of God, figure out God, figure out Son of Man, figure out Revelation 10:1 and figure out 1Thessalonians 4:16. You are going to hell! That is what I have to say concerning this question here. You are trying to bring back a Trinity under this message and it's a Trinitarian seed, taking Colossians 2:2 and saying that it is three of them. Don't you see it's a Trinity - 'God, His Father and Christ?' You are messing up the message and mixing up people. It shows that you are not born-again, don't have the Seal of God, you are still in organization and never came out of Laodicea. It shows that you don't understand the Godhead. So, it's wrong, it's antichrist! It's of the devil! It's Trinitarianism, and people who did not believe in a Trinity, believe in "oneness" and in "Jesus only," and they came under the message and that is the seed that they are preaching from. That is the reason for all the confusion in the message.

The Brother is making a statement here: "Brother Branham said that the problem with the disciples of Jesus is for them to differentiate when Christ is speaking and when Jesus was speaking."

The same is with the followers of the message today. If you take John 14, you will understand when the man is speaking and when the Lord is speaking. You ask, "When is He speaking?" When He said, "Have I been so long time with you and you still ask where is the Father?" That's God speaking out of the flesh. David in the Spirit said, "The Lord shall not suffer my Holy one to see corruption, neither will He leave my soul in hell". David died and Brother Peter cleared that up on the day of Pentecost. He said, "His sepulcher is with us up to today. He was not speaking of himself, he was speaking of the Christ to come, and Jesus never saw corruption, but David saw corruption." You must understand who is speaking. That was David in the Spirit. But when he committed adultery, that was David outside of the Spirit.

You said, "How Brother Branham could say, 'I would ride this trail again'?" Well, you see, you have to understand who is speaking. Brother Branham would be calmly preaching a subject, and all of a sudden you hear him say, "I will ride this train again". Do you know that even confused the Eunuch once.? He was on his chariot and then he opened up his bible. He went to church, he was a real, real church man. He was a proselyte of the Jews and this Brother came down from Ethiopia and he stopped his chariot, (he was so spiritual - parked on the side, treasurer of the queen call Candace) and he was reading the scriptures and he read in Isaiah: "He was led as a lamb dumb to the slaughter and He opened not his mouth", and he was so puzzled. He turned around and he saw a man appeared (Phillip the Evangelist). The Lord led him to that Chariot, he just saw a man appeared. God told him about his little servant from Ethiopia being puzzled in the scripture and he came to the Chariot and said "Understand what thou readest". He said, "How can I understand save I had some man to guide me?" Oh! You don't want to hear a man? You cannot understand except you hear some man. That man was smart enough, although he was a great intellectual. He said, "How could I understand save I have some man to guide me?" He told him to come up into the queen's chariot. That Word could take you into some places friend. Where you ever heard of me riding a chariot of the queen? You have the preacher sit down in the chariot of the queen Candace from Ethiopia; imagine that. He said, "Come brother, I have this bible open here. I have to tell you the truth, I cannot understand. I have only one question for you - the prophet, is he speaking of himself or speak ye of another? When he said, 'I will ride this trail again, is he speaking of himself or is he speaking of another?" These things are puzzling my friend, and the bible said, "And he preached unto him, Christ in His first coming. 'I will ride this trail again' has to do with Christ's second coming hidden under the last Seal. When that Seal is broken to the public, then the Ministry goes out and catches the bride.

People don't understand when that Spirit is speaking from when the man is speaking, just like the brother said. They cannot divide that, even because, "No man can say that Jesus is the Lord but by the Holy Ghost." You have to get a revelation. Don't you see where that is hooked up in the revealing of the Son of Man in the last day? Don't you see that because people don't understand the Godhead, they look out at Brother Branham and say that he is Elohim? Do you see the confusion brethren? That is where the confusion is. The confusion is that they could not divide Brother Branham from the Son of Man; so some of them make Him the Son of Man. Some of them make him Elohim. Some of them Baptize in his name. Some of them believe Branham is the new name. Book 8 dealt with some of these impersonators.

Question # 44: "The relationship with Jesus Christ and Melchesidec is argued. Some said that He is the Melchesidec while others dispute it, that Melchesidec had no beginning, which Jesus has."

Answer: Let us deal with this. I will quote the prophet directly. Let Him tell us who Melchesidec is. Even if we don't have a quotation, the bible tells us, in Hebrews 7, who Melchesidec is. But the big problem is how to relate Him with Jesus. It isn't any problem to believe in Melchesidec: 'without father and without mother', but when you start speaking of Jesus, He had beginning of days, He had end of life at the cross and then He was resurrected. How to reconcile Jesus' life with Melchesidec's? Now, do you see the puzzle? Do you think a man could figure out that? No, it took a prophet. Beloved I don't know anything. God sent a prophet. I don't know anything about the bible - I am preaching a man's message. If I am a postman and I bring a bad news for you, in a letter, you can't be angry with me. No, go and fight with who wrote it. I am only the postman. I'm just delivering the letter here to you.

291-20 "Now, He was the King of righteousness, the King of Jerusalem, the King of righteousness, the King of peace. Jesus was called the Prince of peace, and a prince is the son of a king. So this Man was King of peace, then He would have to be the Father of the Prince of peace. Get it?... this was Jehovah. This was Almighty God Himself. It could be no other… Now, we want to notice here now again, as we go on with this lesson of this Melchisedec, this great Priest of Salem, and the Possessor of heavens and earth. Now, being first...Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor ending of life; but was made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Now, watch. He wasn't the Son of God; He was the God of the Son. He wasn't the Son of God (Melchisedec wasn't), but He was the Father of the Son of God." (Hebrews.Chapter.7.Pt.1 57-0915e).

I believe that Jesus was Mechisedec. Are you going to condemn me for that? No man can say that Jesus was Melchesidec, but by the Holy Ghost.

"309-118 "Now consider how great this man was...He's beyond the Son of God. The Son of God had father and mother; He didn't. The Son of God had a beginning of time and an ending of time; He didn't. Who was that? That was the Father of the Son. That's Who it was." (Hebrews Chapter.7.Pt.1 57-0915e).

341-306 "And this Melchisedec was not Jesus, for He was God. And what made Jesus and God different,... Jesus was the Tabernacle that God dwelt in. See? Now,... Jesus had both father and mother, and this Man never had father or mother. Jesus had a beginning of life and He had a end of life. This Man had no father, no mother, no beginning of days, or ending of life. But It was the self same Person; it was Melchisedec and Jesus was One; but Jesus was the earthly body, borned and fashioned after sin: God's own body, His own Son, borned and fashioned after sin to take the sting out of death, to pay the ransom, and to receive sons and daughters unto Himself. You get it? That's the reason that He had a beginning; He had an ending." (Hebrews Chapter.7.Pt.1 57-0915e).

The same prophet that said that Melchesidec was the Father of the Son is the same prophet that now came back in the quotation here and say that they are the same; they are one. I believe they are one, but by divine revelation.

E-48 "Now, how many knows that Christ is the Spirit of God?...".

You know what is Christ? He is the Logos, He is the Word and now He is the Spirit of Good.

"…We all know that. He's the anointed One. Jesus was the anointed. There's where people who believe that there's three or four different Gods, get all mixed up. See? God is a Spirit. Jesus was the body that the Spirit of God dwelled in, made Him Emmanuel, God, tabernacled on earth. He was God. Jesus Christ was God, yet He was the Son of God. His flesh was the Son of God 'cause God created it, but inside He was God. "It's not Me," said Jesus, "does the works, it's My Father that dwelleth in Me. And that day you'll know that I'm in the Father, the Father in Me, I in you, and you in Me. There you are." (Why Cry Speak 59-1004E).

One minute the Prophet of God will lay emphasis that Jesus is God. The next minute he will tell you that Jesus is a man. The next thing, he will tell you that Melchesidec is the father of the son. The next time he would tell you that both of them are the same. That makes it very confusing for the intellectual mind, but if you have a divine revelation, while that preaching is going on, you are dividing: one-two, one-two, one-two… When you come up to the revelation of the Son of Man, you divide now, one-two, one-two.

The Godhead was revealed to make it very simple and understandable for the church of God to understand Luke 17:30, Revelation 10:1 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16. All such revelations were hiding under the Seventh Seal in the Seven Unknown Thunders. If you don't understand the Godhead, you don't understand anything, therefore you are not born-again. So the relationship with Jesus Christ and Melchesidec, they are one by revelation and Melchesidec is the Father of the Son on the other hand. You must understand that.

Question # 45: "Some said that Michael the Archangel is Jesus Christ, while others said that Michael is merely an angel liken unto Wormwood or Gabriel."

Answer: You talk about confusion in this message. Why would a man be confused? Beloved, simply, because the bible says all of these things from Genesis to Revelation and without a divine revelation you cannot put them together. It's that simple. So now, when people make these statements, it is a reflection that they don't have a revelation of Christ. It's a reflection that they are not born again. They are just not born again. They try to preach this revelation without being born again, without having the Spirit of God, without even understanding the Godhead and here they try to preach Thunders now, Son of Man revealed and 1 Thessalonians 4:16, without even understanding the Godhead. You are stupid! You need to get back to the basic message of Brother Branham and study the way that he has it laid down there on the Godhead, and beat your chest and cry for mercy, that when the Seven Thunders comes to the public, that you could understand the Coming of Christ the second time. It is not yet broken to the public, but it is in secret somewhere. That is what the prophet of God declared.

"And the end time Seal, when it starts, will be absolutely a total secret according to the Bible…and we know that this Seventh Seal cannot be broke to the public until that hour arrives. (The seventh seal page 564 & 575).

Let us get that question - "Some said that Michael is Jesus, while others said that Michael is merely an angel like unto Wormwood and Gabriel." Because, they don't have a divine revelation.

I will simplify this. The angel that came down upon Mount Sinai, called the Angel of the Lord, was the Angel of the Covenant and He is Michael the Archangel. That is different from Wormwood, He is different from Gabriel, even because Michael the Archangel is the Angel of the Lord and He was leading the children of Israel to the promise land, in a pillar of fire, and He got angry with the children of Israel because of their unbelief. He was the Angel of the Covenant hiding in the pillar of fire, and then He told Moses, "Take these people up lest I consume them in my wrath. I am not going up with them. I will send an angel." Oh yes! He sent another angel, but I will tell you something with Michael the archangel, He is the very Angel of the Lord and that Angel that came down on Mt. Sinai. Read your scriptures good and you would see where that very Angel was God himself. Exodus: 3 said that an Angel came down from Heaven and spoke unto Moses, but when he brought them to Mount Sinai, he said, "This day you will hear the voice of God for yourselves, that you will have no doubt from henceforth that, that was God speaking." There is a great secret and revelation laying there. I would not send it out. You've got to humble your heart. It has to do with Melchesidec, and they would never understand that revelation with Michael, Christ and Jesus until they come to that revelation. So, they have to make Michael a common angel, just like Wormwood and Gabriel. Impossible! Michael is the Angel of the Lord called the Covenant Angel and that's the same one that is standing upon land and sea today as Revelation 10:1, identified with the rainbow around His head. Therefore, rainbow says which one of the angels it is. It is the Angel of the Covenant, and the Angel of the Covenant is Christ.

Do you want scriptures for that? "Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me:…" That was John the Baptist. "…and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant…" That's Christ, the Messenger of the Covenant-Malachi 3:1. And Jesus came and verified that. Malachi 3:1 is speaking of two messengers. One was John the Baptist and the other was Jesus, and He was the Angel of the Covenant that followed the children of Israel in a pillar of fire. This is not chick feed, friend. This is the Word of the Lord. We would stop there with Michael.

Question # 46: "Please elaborate more on these two subjects that Brother Branham hit so hard, as believers are gradually diving into it: the 'Oneness' and the 'Jesus Only' doctrines."

Answer: This question is asking to show the difference between the Trinitarian, the Oneness and the Jesus Only. Brother Branham openly said that he was no 'Oneness" neither 'Trinitarian' nor 'Jesus Only'. The True Revelation of the Godhead is between Trinitarianism, 'Oneness' and the 'Jesus Only'. It takes a little more time to get into that to show the difference of Trinitarianism and Oneness, because the revelation is so close together like the true revelation, that it might deceive the very elect if it was possible, and this is what they had before Brother Branham came. They had a Oneness and a Jesus Only doctrine, but when the Prophet of God came they actually thought that He was a 'Oneness' and a 'Jesus only' preacher because it was so close. So, many times, he had to deny, "I am not 'Oneness'. I am not 'Jesus Only' and I am neither 'Trinitarian.' He had the revelation between all of those things.

Question # 47: "There is a teaching here that the disciples did not receive the Holy Ghost on the day of Pentecost. They did not receive the Holy Ghost according to Acts. Chapter: 2, rather that they received it in John 20: 9-23 - that Acts is the day of it's celebration or ceremony to the church, just as Jesus had the Holy Ghost, but the spirit came like a dove on Him as a sign unto John the Baptist for the identification. Please, people are seriously losing the focus of the revelation of the Godhead, that's why I am beckoning to Bethel Church to dwell on this subject of the 'Godhead'.".

Answer: We are dwelling on it Brother. How many say, 'madness'? [Congregation says, "Madness!"] I say, 'insanity; madness'. Now, do you understand what is going on here? Acts 2:38 is an account where one hundred and twenty received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. John 20:19-23 is when Jesus, after His resurrection, came and breathed upon them and said, "Receive ye the Holy Ghost." Fanatics, heretics, men that don't have a revelation of the Holy Ghost and men that are not born-again, (Except a man be born again, he cannot understand the Kingdom of God, and the kingdom of God is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, plus) they are saying that they didn't receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost on the day of Pentecost in reality. On the day of Pentecost it was a ceremony of receiving the baptism, but they really got it at that time when Jesus breathed upon them and said, "Receive ye the Holy Ghost." Could you imagine something like that? That breaks every scripture in the bible. How could somebody be so dumb? You don't even know the ABC's of the scripture. So-called Pentecostals will put you to shame. Methodist will put you to shame. Do you mean to say that you could so misinterpret the scriptures? So, what Jesus meant when He said, "Tarry ye in Jerusalem for I send the promise of the father upon you?" What did He mean when He said, "Tarry ye in Jerusalem until ye be endued with power from on high, then shall ye be my witnesses?"

Do you see the madness? Do you think it's worth arguing, my brothers and sisters? We have better things to teach on. Mad people! That's when people think that their brains are too big. They came down from the organization and accepted the message, and they want to continue to be a theologian. They don't want to lose their pride. They don't want to lose their fame. They don't want to lose the credibility they had over there in the organization. No! They want to be some kind of big shots in the message. Some kind of a big fellow and misinterpret the scriptures. I doubt that they even read the message.

I would defeat you with the prophet's words; the very message. Hear how Brother Branham answered that question.

1157-Q-383 383. "Dear Brother Branham, what is the difference when Jesus breathed on the disciples and said, "Receive ye the Holy Ghost," and when they--when they had to go to the upper room to tarry? It was a promise He gave them, breathed upon them His promise, said, "Receive ye the Holy Ghost." It was a promise. They went to the upper room to wait for the promise to be fulfilled. The same thing is when we lay hands upon you to be healed, then you go on about your business waiting for the promise to be fulfilled." (Questions And Answers Cod 64-0830e).

That answers the question. That's the conclusion of that scripture and that is found in John 20: 19-23. The simplicity is that after Jesus was resurrected from the dead and He breathed upon them and said, "Receive ye the Holy Ghost", He was trying to tell them that they were going to receive a promise in a short while, so it was demonstrating something of an oncoming promise. Just as if you come up and I lay hands upon you and say, "Brother, according to the Word, 'They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover', go in faith." You did not get your healing there, but as you continue to believe you receive your healing. It's the same way with what happened to the disciples. So this, Mr. Heretic, is garbage. You are talking foolishness. The prophet of God defeated your heresy on 'Questions & Answers, Jeff 1964', and long before you came up with this heresy, the Prophet of God put the sword there to take care of you.

We believe in another return of Pentecost and we have the promise made to us through the Prophet and through the bible and we believe it. He breathed upon us already and we are just looking for the fulfilment of it. Yes sir! He has already over-shadowed us with the Holy Spirit. When He over-shadowed you and He breathed upon you, the Holy Ghost is an oncoming promise that you will receive the great outpouring of the Holy Ghost, the great Promise of God; that they received on the day of Pentecost. I believe it with all my heart. If you don't believe that, you are an unbeliever. That is what the children of Israel disbelieved, that they could take the promise land that God made to them and that showed up every unbeliever that was following Moses' message.

I heard unbelievers rose up many years ago, after hearing the promise of God preached, and say, "They are looking out for the token but it will never come." That is the beginning of your sorrows. They entered not in because of their unbelief. "They preach that token so long and every year they say that it is coming." That's the beginning of your sorrow. It's unbelief in your heart. You are not going to get it with that kind of unbelief. When people start acting like that around you friend, you be careful. It's an unbelieving spirit.

The ten spies that came from the promise land, came there and anointed the whole congregation with an unbelieving devil, and do you know what they said? They said, "We are not able to take the land." They anointed two million people that perished in the wilderness. So anytime you hear a mouth spurting unbelief from the pulpit and telling you that "we cannot return to Pentecost, we cannot get an out-pouring of the Holy Spirit, it's too late for another revival and the bride is just about ready to leave the earth and go," my brothers, it's a heretic, anointed of the devil; have nothing to do with it. We are believing in a return of Pentecost. I believe it with all my heart, all my soul and all my mind.

There are other questions which are commonly asked by church denominations. The only reason that they ask these questions, shows that they are not born-again and do not have a revelation. And there are various other questions, and they are so good and so wonderful.

Question # 48: "When God said let us create man, to whom was he referring too in Genesis?"

Answer: You see, organizations believe in a Trinity. As far as they are concerned, He was speaking to the other two fellows. One man who wants to believe in the oneness, he said, "He was speaking to angels." I said, "Then the angels are in the image of man?" No! Man is not in the image of angels.

Now again, we have to come back to 1 Corinthians 12:3, "No man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost." We are all familiar with these scriptures and these teachings for decades. We are right on the middle line concerning the Godhead.

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And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" (Genesis 1: 26-27).

Now, this confusion came in with the word "us", that, if God is one who was He speaking too, and said, "let us make man in our own image"? I have read the accounts of men and certain men said, "That's a simple question, He was speaking to the angels, because the angels were already created ahead of man." But I asked them the question, "Are the angels in the image of God for God to tell the angels, "Let us make man in our image?" Now, the angels are not in the image of God, but only man was created in the image of God, therefore, He was talking to somebody else. And this could go very deep and sweet, but we would answer the question.

We have to face the fact that if God is one God, He was speaking to somebody because the English language has not lost its meaning. "Let us make man in our image and our likeness." Angels don't have the image of God, neither does Lucifer. He had to be talking to somebody that has the image of God, like God Himself. And if we search from Genesis to Revelation, there is only one that has the image of God. Not an angel, not a bird, not a mule, not a horse, so He could not be talking about the animals He created. And my Bible is saying:

"In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. (Colossians 1:14-17).

Amen! He is the center of the universe and everything revolves around Him. Now, there is our answer, believe it or not, He was talking to the image of God. God in the beginning was speaking to the image of God, and who is the image of God? The image of God was none other than Christ, the Logos that was in the image of God, glory to God! He had to be speaking to somebody that was in the image of God. The one that was in the image of God is Christ. "Who is the image of the invisible God, the first born of every creature."

E-64 "I can see this Logos go over and hang over this earth, brood over it...Now, we're in Genesis 1…and the Spirit of God moved upon the water… He said, "Let us (plural) make man (plural) in our own image." What was He? There is a supernatural Being. There's the One that could not be seen. God the Father never was seen, never will be seen. He's all nature. And there He is. And now, here's the Son, which is the Logos that went out of Him, made in His image, a supernatural Being that went out in the beginning." (Show Us The Father It'll Satisfy 53-0610).

E-55 "As He begin to move it in close to the sun, it begin to thaw out. Then God commissioned the Holy Spirit. The first Person introduced is God: God, in the beginning was God, in Genesis. And then the next is introduced, is the Holy Spirit or the Logos, which went out of God, yet it was all of God went out into a Person. And the Bible said, It begin to brood over the earth." (Impersonation Of Christianity 57-0120m).

273-385 "In the first place, when God, the Logos that went out of God...Or, as I have went through it, the Catholic call It, "the eternal sonship of God."... Which as I have said before, the word doesn't even make sense. See, there cannot be an eternal son, because a son had to have a beginning. And so Jesus had a beginning; God had no beginning. See? But the Son was the... Not eternal sonship, but the Son that was with the Father in the beginning was the Logos that went out of God. And it was the Theophany of God that went out, the human form that didn't have eyes like you see: a better eye. It didn't have ears like you hear, but a far more hearing. See? It was a Theophany, that all this rainbow condescended into a Theophany. Moses saw It when It passed through the rock like that. He saw the back parts, said, "It looked like a man." (Qa.Hebrews.Part.2 Cod 57-1002).

Before angels were created, before a particle of dust, before anything was created, there was a first born, and Brother Branham called him the first born the Son of the Spirit. Not the son of Mary, 'the son of the Spirit', oh glory to God! This first born over here is not the son of Mary. There was not a woman in heaven to give birth to this first born. Everything that the woman brings forth dies and everything that the man (Christ Jesus) gives birth to lives. I will stop here to give the explanation of the mighty Elijah the prophet, William Branham, concerning this scripture.

The Prophet of God said, on 'Question and answers on Genesis', "Here now we are looking over the banister of eternity and we are going to paint a picture: The great Elohim that filled all time, all space and all eternity, the self existing One, He dwelt alone, but He wanted fellowship. He had attributes in Him: attributes to be a Son, attributes to be a Father, attributes to be a Savior, but nobody was lost. So, the great God wanted to express Himself", and, He said, "the first thing that went out of God, to my opinion, was a little light, and that little light was the Logos, and that Logos begin to form in the shape of a man. It was not a man, but it was like a man, and that became the image of God. The first time that God took a visible form was when the Logos evolved out of God. There was not a woman to give birth, but it evolved out of God and it was called the Son of the Spirit."

So now, that Son of the Spirit coming out of Almighty God, it evolved out of God and the Word was God. (In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. St. John 1:1-2). That Word which went out of God was with God, but then the Eternal Spirit, who is God, inhabited what went out of Him. So the Word became God. So now, the first expression was Christ; the Lord had it in His mind, and thoughts, but then He expressed it through the Word and it became a human figure. So Logos means thought and Word expressed. When it went out of God it formed itself into the shape of a human being and that became the image of the Almighty, without father, without mother without decent, without beginning and without ending.

So now, this evolved out of God not made nor created. This is God Himself in another form. That great expression of Almighty God went out from God, yes sir, and it was with God; the only thing that was with God. He now jumps into that image, so the Word was God. And in the dispensation of time, that same one who was God, the Word, the Logos, became flesh and dwelt among us. He promised to do the same in the last day, oh glory to God! I love it. That is how plain the scripture is. (Luke 17:30)

A Minister brother made a gross error and he said "In Genesis one when God said let there be light, that's the time Christ came into existence, the Logos." Oh how poor. Come on brother, you got mixed up in the head. You made a good effort to explain the Godhead, but you got it mixed up.

Colossians 1:15-17, "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature."

That means that when Christ, the Logos evolved out of God there was nothing even in existence.

"…For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."

The Bible is saying here that this one was before all things. He was before the angels. He was before the creation of the heavens and the earth: so that could not be the light of Genesis 1:3. ("In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth…And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." Genesis 1:1, 3). The earth was already created, so you have the cart before the horse. In Colossians 1, He was before all things, and not only that my brother, but all things were made by Him. So, this One that I am talking about was speaking in Genesis. In Genesis 1:1 when it said, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth", this first born was creating the heavens and the earth. After the creations of the heavens and the earth then came forth the voice that said, "Let there be light." So now, that could not be the coming forth of the logos over in Genesis 1:3. What happened is that you got two beginnings mixed up. One is before all things, before anything was created, and the other beginning was the creation of things on the earth. The first beginning were in the heavens with the Logos and the second beginning were on earth down here. So, you're getting two things mixed up, however, I respect your teaching because you are fighting hard to prove the son-ship of God, but without the right divine revelation, you got it mixed up.

Somebody might want to find out what light that is in Genesis 1:3. The Bible explains it. That was not Logos. "Well then Brother Bruce, what kind of light that was?" That was a special light to divide the day and night of a thousand year period It was a special light because the sun and the moon only divided the twenty-four hour day but the Lord wanted a thousand year day, so He made a special light at that time. "Let there be light" and that light was to divide the thousand year day not the twenty-four hour day. It was not the logos. It was a special created light that the Lord made to divide the thousand-year day. Creation took place in six thousand (6000) years which is six days. As Peter said "One day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day." He rested on the Sabbath day, that was one thousand years, the same period of time that God gave to sinful mankind and Satan, six thousand (6000) years. Now that we've come to the end of the six thousand years, we are about ready to have our rest period, our Sabbath of one thousand years to reign with Christ, resting in the millennium making it the seventh thousand years. We shall build houses and we shall inhabit them. I believe it with all my heart. How many believe it with all your hearts? [Congregation says, "Amen!"]

So, this one in Genesis who said, "Let there be waters, let there be land, let there be beasts", is the one that is called the first born of every creature. Don't you see? Oh my, if you could only understand that when God took on that form, in that form and image He continued to create. In that form and image He made the angels, He made Lucifer, in that form of the image of God He finished His creation in the heavens and then came down to the earth, and in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, and after a long time He said, "Let there be light". Now, this brother is bringing out that the light of Genesis 1:3 was Christ, the Logos because God created the sun and the moon on the 4th day. No my brother, that was not the Logos; the Logos, God hiding in Christ, had already created the angels and the heavens and the earth. The Bible said here that He was before all those things. Before one particle of dust was created on the earth the Logos evolved out of Almighty God, and when it went out of Almighty God that Logos itself became God. From that time, God assumed a human figure but he was not a human being. The human being is Jesus Christ. The flesh is Jesus Christ, but that great one assumed a human figure and he walked around the portals of glory.

One time Moses said, "Lord you talked with me so much, I want to see your face now." He said, "Listen to me friend, no man has seen my face and lived, but you're such a servant of God, I am going to put you upon a certain rock"; oh Glory! "When you get upon that certain rock you're going to get a certain revelation, and when I pass by don't open your eyes now; the day you see my face you are going to die. Don't try to look back, stand upon this rock, back turned, I'm going to pass by and when I pass by I am going to cover your eyes with my hand so that you don't get a glimpse of my face least you die." And Moses was so glad, he stood upon that rock and the Lord passed, but he was obedient and the Lord put His hands upon his eyes and He passed and He moved his hands and said, "Moses, open your eyes." And when he looked he seen the frame of a man, the back parts of a man; he seen the back part of the head, the hands and the same feet that walked in Genesis ("And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day." - Genesis 3:8) and he did not die.

My beloved, that was the great Logos, the image of the invisible God, that was God himself, and in that image He came down and hid in His prophets in a certain measure throughout the Bible. He veiled that image that man would not look upon his face and die. He came right down and veiled himself. He clothed himself in Melchisedek. Don't you see the Godhead? Veiled himself in a human body that had no navel, because it was not born from woman. You were born from woman; you were hanging in your mother's womb like a fruit, hanging on the human tree with a stem on it. So your navel cord was the stem that the fruit was hanging on; it bears record that you were born in sin, shaped in iniquity and came into this world speaking lies. When God created a body to come down and walk the face of the earth it had no navel string and he was not born from woman, Glory to God! Yes sir, and beloved, that great God assumed a human figure many times. In the form of Melchisedek, the one that came to Abraham's tent door. In many other places He assumed a human figure, and like the prophet of God demonstrated, He said, "I must go down and see what Abraham is doing. I must go down and tell him that I am going to fulfill the promise." He put out his hand, Almighty God, the Spirit, the image of God, He is a creator, yes my brother; He put out his hand and grabbed the particles: cosmic light, cosmic this, cosmic ashes, yes, in his hands and blew it as he blew upon Adam and Adam became a living soul, he created another man and that man jumped out of his hands, yes sir, and stood upon his feet and said, "Here am I ready for service." He said, "I need two more companions to fool Abraham", and pulled another handful and blew it and another man stood by, and he pulled another handful, blew again and another man stood by; He said, "Alright Gabriel, jump in that, Wormwood jump in that and I Michael the Archangel will jump into this one, oh glory to God! going down to Abraham. He said, "Now, when we reach down there in the desert, put some dust on your clothes, rumple your hair a bit, make yourselves look old and shabby". "Be not negligent to entertain strangers for thereby some have entertained angels unaware." And the three men went down the road with their dusty coats, reached Abraham's tent door but something was moving. Abraham was acquainted with the presence of God, something alerted him: "I feel a sweet presence around here", oh Glory to God, "just like when I am praying. Something is around; I see three men coming; oh that presence is getting stronger. I'm seeing three men in the distance, yes, I will wait and see what happens." "Oh Lord help me to understand; give me divine revelation on the son of man, oh Lord give me the born again experience", we will say today, and the presence moved closer and Abraham was accustomed with that presence, he felt the presence. One time he met a priest and something dawned to Abraham that, that is Elohim, the self existing one in a human figure, the man in the middle is Elohim, He is trying to fool me, but Lord, thank you for a revelation, I got a revelation that out of all those preachers, there is one who is the Lord, there is one who is the coming of the Lord, His name is Jesus. Out of all the apostles there is one mixed up among the apostles, His name is Jesus and He is the Lord. "Whom do men say that I the Son of man?" "Some say this and some say that but whom say ye that I am? Thou Art the Christ, the Son of the Living God." And Abraham ran from his tent door, in all fear and all reverence and bowed to the man in the middle and he said, "My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant: Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree." (Genesis 18: 3-4). Humble yourself in the sight of the Lord, yes' sit down my Lord with your companions, sit down here, there's a special chair for you, Lord my God, it's a wonderful time. "Abraham rejoiced to see my day; and he saw it and was glad." Oh Glory to God! [Congregation rejoices.]Glory to God! The same one that was hiding in that created body, now came and hid in a body born from a woman, little Mary. His name is Jesus. That one that was hiding in that created body came into a body that was born from a woman and the Pharisees could not make Him out. He said: "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad." (John 8:56). And these blind Pharisees, without revelation, said: "Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?" (John 8: 57), and they picked up stones to stone Him. He said: "But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham." (John 8: 40). He was the very Elohim that was hiding in that body who met Abraham on that day. They did not recognize him because He was hiding in a body that was so simple and so common. Oh my God! I tell you, it is sweet to my soul.

That one, who was the first-born, created all things and was before all things. "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. (John 1: 3). He created the world, created animals, created trees, created the fishes of the sea and now, right in Genesis, He is speaking to the Son of the Spirit. "Let us make man in our own image." The both of them had one image. "Let us make man in our own image" (singular), even because the image of God is Christ that was in the beginning. "Let us make man in our image and our likeness" (singular). This is the Spirit speaking to the Logos, the Son of the Spirit.

We seen Him in the scripture as the God of the three Hebrew boys (one like unto the son of God) even before Jesus was born. Solomon in all his wisdom knew not His secret name that He and His Father shared. "What is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?" (Proverbs 30:4). He is not the second person in the godhead, but is very God, the Word. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God… And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us." St. John 1: 1, 14).

So then, man was created by the spoken word and man in his spirit being, his soul and theophany took on the image of God. The only creature that God ever made in his image was a human being, no animal, no angel, no nothing. Do you see the love of God for man? That is why "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy." (1 Corinthians 3: 17). You ridicule the image of God. You blaspheme the image of God. You scorn and trample it under your feet. The highest creature in the whole universe is God and He made you in that image, and to commit sin you desecrate that great image.

So now, God said (the Spirit God speaking to his image, who is Christ, the first born of all creatures) "Let us make man in our image and likeness". The spirit part of man was made in the image of God, exactly like God. If you want to know who is God, He has a nose, He has a mouth, lips, eyes, He has hair, He has hands and He has feet. After that creation in Genesis 1: 26-27, the Lord wanted a physical man. "…and there was not a man to till the ground", because a spirit cannot dig dirt. So, He said that there is not a man to till the soil and the Lord took red clay and formed a man, and when He formed that man He then breathed the breath of life into his nostrils and Adam became a living soul. What the Lord did is that He brought that image that He created in Genesis 1: 26:27 and fused it together with the dirt man, and the dirt man lived and became a living soul with the Holy Ghost ("Zoe", God's own life). He said: "Alright, now you'll keep the garden. Check on all these fruits, control the animals; I give you dominion, power, take care of all these things

Man fell. Oh great God! Brethren in order for God to redeem man, he came down and made Himself into the image of sinful man and took upon Him sinful flesh that He might redeem man. That is why He had to come through a woman and be born like you, and me, but with a virgin birth. So He turned around and took the image of man to save man. My God! this redemption story is sweet. Instead of Him coming like a spoken word son or being like the priest who met Abraham, to redeem man, He became kindred man to redeem man. He had to be family relation to the human race and the only way He could be that to the human race is to be born from the woman. So God's law required a kinsman redeemer. When He was born He had the pure word and lived like we live, and yet without sin, to redeem man.

Question # 49: -- "While he was at the bank of Jordan and at Mt. Transfiguration who spoke to Him from Heaven, while he was standing on earth?"

Answer: Confusing. They cannot understand. Here He is at the bank of Jordan and a next Fellow is speaking up there, "This is my beloved son in whom I am well-pleased."

Trinitarians use this. When He went to be baptized of John, a dove flew down and lighted upon Him. They say "That's the Holy Spirit. Then a voice spoke from heaven and said: "This my beloved son in whom I am well pleased", and they say, the Son is standing at the Jordan, one….two……..three, a trinity." Impossible! God is not a trinity. If Jesus was the second person in the Godhead when He died at Calvary there were only two left. So, for seventy-two hours before Jesus, "the second person in the Godhead" resurrected, there was a two-nity. There is no Trinity. And the question is asked "If God is one how come a dove came down and a voice spoke from heaven, and the son stood in the water? Now that is how a Trinitarian thinks or any person without divine revelation

That is very simple by revelation. The Dove was a sign to John. Although a dove represents the Holy Ghost in the Bible, the Bible never said that this was the Holy Ghost. The dove itself was a sign that the spirit was coming upon the Lord, so, it was symbolized as a dove because the Lord was receiving the spirit and the spirit came upon Him like a dove. Now, the same time the spirit was coming upon the Lord in the form of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, a voice spoke from heaven. God could do anything. If I have the Holy Spirit and He is speaking through me, can the Holy Spirit speak through another Brother in America? God could speak here at the same time and speak there at the same time. He can be inside of a human being and speak outside of the man at the same time. That is God. While God was inside of Moses he was speaking from Mt Sinai. He is Almighty God and at the same time, the dove, which represents the Spirit, was coming down inside our Lord Jesus to give Him the Baptism of The Holy Spirit. The father was announcing, "This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased to dwell in" Now people without a divine revelation ask those foolish questions in organizations. They are thinking that we believe that the flesh is God. The flesh is not God. The flesh is the flesh. The Spirit is the Spirit. That's the same thing that happened on Mt. Transfiguration. "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." (John 3:6).

On Mt. Transfiguration, we noticed that Jesus was there; Moses was there, Elias was there and then a voice spake from heaven that is after Jesus got the Baptism at the banks of Jordan. The father was dwelling in Him. A voice spoke out after Moses and Elias disappeared, and said, 'Hear ye Him', but the Father was in the Son. So, the Holy Spirit could speak through me, and speak through a thousand men at the same time and a voice could still speak in the heavens, just like he spoke on the bank of Ohio River. Brother Branham had the Holy Spirit and a voice was speaking in the heavens saying, "Your message will forerun the coming of the Lord." So that is no great mystery. It's a revelation they need.

Our African brother thinks that John 3: 13 fits right there. Jesus said, "The Son of Man even which is in heaven". While Jesus was on earth, He said, he was in heaven also. The Lord could be in more than one place at the same time. That is the power of God. He could be in this church here and in another in the U.S.A. He could be in St. Vincent; He could be in Grenada, He could be in Guyana and He could be in China. That is the power of our God. So it is no big thing for God to be in me and speak out there. It is no big thing for me to be baptizing here and God speaking from above. That is no big mystery. It is Almighty God that we are dealing with. I believe, with all my heart. I trust that these little things here that was spoken, answered some of these questions and if there is another question my beloved brethren there in Africa or India or one that was not answered to your satisfaction and you need more clarification, we can always fill in at another time.

The things you have heard today are the truth concerning the Godhead. We believe that Jesus is God, because God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself. We strongly believe that and wherever this message will go, wherever this tape may go we trust that we'll spend eternity together. Yes, we must worship God in spirit and in truth. And we believe that God sent us a prophet who revealed these things. And although He sent this prophet, yet men are in darkness because they lack understanding. They brought over their denominational seeds, seeds of idolatry and seeds from all different kinds of religions and they are trying to handle the message. They must be born-again. They must give up those old seeds that are in them in order to understand the truth.

To see the folly of great men that claim to be preaching this message and don't even know the ABC's of this message and together with that, claim Thunders. These are men who claim to be preaching Thunders, (Seven and Eight Thunders). These are men that claim to be Revelation 10:1 manifested in flesh. These are men preaching that Christ descended from heaven. These are men that claim to have what they had on the Day of Pentecost. Such men don't even know their ABC's, and are jumping up about Thunders and cannot even line up a holiness message. But, thank God for grace children. He has guided us for many years and He has us straight on the Word of God. The Godhead in this tabernacle is a settled question and we count it as the ABC's of the scriptures. We are pressing on to higher heights to see that the Seventh Seal broken to the public and the revealing of the Son of Man in judgment take place. The prophet of God said, "The Son of Man that is revealed in judgment would take vengeance upon the rejecters of the message." We are heading for that.

E-36 "In the days when the Son of man shall reveal Himself from heaven..." He's revealing Himself now to the church for mercy. The next time He reveals Hisself is in destruction to those who's rejected the Message." (Will the Church go before the tribulation 58-0309).

I cannot get over that these same men who don't even understand the Godhead and would make such heresies, such isms and such cults and try to take the people back to a Trinitarian doctrine and to Hinduism proclaim to be preaching the Thunders and revealing the Son of Man. It is blasphemy! The Seven Thunders is going to come to the public and Christ is going to be identified in the church of the living God. The fullness of the Godhead that dwelt bodily in our Lord Jesus Christ is about ready to come forth and dwell in the end-time Bride. The fullness of the Godhead bodily will be dwelling in the end-time Bride and we will do the greater works. I believe that with all my heart.

69 Jesus said, "And as the Father sent Me, so do I send you." He don't only send you, but He goes with you. "I'll be with you, even in you, unto the end of the world." All that was in God was poured out in Christ; and all that was in Christ was emptied out into the believer, the Church. (Proof Of His Resurrection 55-0410m).

171-1 In these last days the true Bride Church (Christ's seed) will come to the Headstone, and she will be the super church, a super race, as she nears Him. They in the bride will be so much like Him that they will even be in His very image. This is in order to be united with Him. They will be one. They will be the very manifestation of the Word of the living God… Those in the bride do only His will. No one can make them do otherwise. They have 'thus saith the Lord' or they keep still. They know that it has to be God in them doing the works, fulfilling His own Word. He did not complete all His work while in His earthly ministry so now He works in and through the bride. She knows that, for it was not yet time for Him to do certain things that He must now do. But He will now fulfill through the bride that work which He left for this specific time. (Church Ages Book).

Lord I'm so happy that I could give out these things today. For the third time preaching and you have given me the grace, I want to humbly thank you Lord, and give you the glory and the honour for giving me the understanding, the health , the strength, Lord and the anointing of the Spirit that I can stand for a whole day Lord, and preach the unsearchable riches of Christ. O Lord send these young men, raise them up. Send them across the earth with this revelation in their bosoms. Send them to China, send them to Africa, send them to India. O Lord, grant them grace. Lord bless them all, use them Lord for your honour and glory. We pray O Lord that you would bless this message and all the messages from this morning. That you will let it go and bring deliverance unto your people. In the Name of Jesus Christ we pray with thanksgiving, Amen.

'But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Verses 12 to 19: "But these, (heretics, false prophets, perverters of the Word of God) as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, [as] they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam [the son] of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. For when they speak great swelling [words] of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, [through much] wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. (2 Peter 2: 1 to 3, 12-19).

We say a special thanks to the brother, whose name I do not want to mention, to avoid persecution, who sent us these questions that we may answer them. We thank him for his confidence, love and discernment to understand that we have the Word of the Lord and that we can help in whatever way we can help. We do not claim to have all the answers around the Message, but at least, whatever answers we have they are based on the Word of God and the Message of the hour, and we try to hold our peace on the things that we do not understand.

This Scripture is very vital here in II Peter the second chapter, and this is nothing strange that there will be false prophets and impersonators coming up around the Message of Brother Branham, trying to pervert it. That's the work of the devil. The work of the devil is always to send his messengers and his servants to pervert the truth and distort it in order that they might feed the people the wrong interpretation and eventually bring death to them. Brother Peter found this in his day and he warned the church. He said, 'There were false prophets also among the people in time past,' and he prophesied that 'there will also be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord'. And he spoke of these people who were in the past ages in the Old Testament and warned the church in the early age, that there would be false teachers among them, and the other Apostles bore witness to this fact: Brother Paul in Galatians 1 and John the divine, said that false prophets shall arise, antichrists shall come, and to beware of these false prophets

This system runs true in all the ages. Every time God sends a messenger, soon after that message was broadcasted, there arose false prophets and false teachers. The devil has a five-fold ministry as certain as God has a five-fold ministry. The purpose of this false five-fold ministry is to pervert and distort the Message, making it no longer pure. When it is no longer pure it cannot produce Word-born Sons of God. It can only bring forth after its kind. That is why it is very important to sit under a Man of God who has a revelation.

98 "Jesus wants fruit for Hisself. His wife must bring forth the kind of a children that He is. Then if they don't bring forth children, Bride children, Word children, then it's a denominational child…And they can't bring forth a real, genuine, borned again Christian, 'cause there's nothing there to bring it forth." (Rapture 65-1204).

56-2 "In every age we have exactly the same pattern. That is why the light comes through some God-given messenger in a certain area, and then from that messenger there spreads the light through the ministry of others who have been faithfully taught. But of course all those who go out don't always learn how necessary it is to speak ONLY what the messenger has spoken...They add here, or take away there, and soon the message is no longer pure, and the revival dies down." (Church Ages Book).

Brother Peter never joked around with these false prophets; he described them in a way that would be very offensive today. He called them 'cursed children, brute beasts'. The scriptures that I just read bear out that fact, that he called them all kinds of names and never flinched at bringing out the words, describing them as brute beasts. On the basis of the Scripture and the Word of God, if those descriptions fit those heretics and false prophets in that time, they still fit them today, and even more can be said, for Jesus said, "False christs and false prophets shall arise and shall deceive many." That scripture is fulfilled in our age and began to be fulfilled about the time of the opening of the Seven Seals. The Seven Seals was opened in order to expose these false prophets. That is why the first four horse riders in the first four Seals dealt with the antichrist. The Lord reserved the Seals for the end time to expose these false prophets. To be honest with you, it takes a genuine revelation on the Seals in order to expose these heretics and false prophets with their heresies in the time in which we live and around the Message of the hour, and we believe that we have that.

Question # 50: "The doctrinal differences here in Nigeria, some believe that Brother Branham is Elohim, thereby praying and baptizing in his name." "They have taken St. John 16:12-16, where it says, "and when He the Holy Spirit is come." They say that refers to Brother Branham. I had this issue with one of the elderly ministers and he was trying to put that scripture over to me, that refers to the Holy Ghost. He ended up calling me a babe in the Message that knows nothing about the Bible terminology. He is among the group that propagates Brother Branham as Elohim."

Answer: I want to declare this a heresy from the pit of hell! To call Brother Branham Elohim is blasphemy! And no true Christian minister should stand for that. Nobody in Nigeria or in any part of the world should stand for that. And anybody who believes that and preaches that is a heretic. They are not born again and do not have the Holy Spirit. For a man to believe that Brother Branham is the Spirit of Truth, the Comforter and even the Holy Spirit, it is blasphemy! It's of the devil! Have nothing to do with it!

We do not have such a doctrine here in Trinidad. I have been fighting this heresy around the world for a long time. Brother Branham is not Elohim! The word "Elohim" for your understanding here as little children, it is a Hebrew word. When the Bible said, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" they translated the word "God" or "Lord" from the Hebrew word "Elohim." So when it said, "in the beginning "God" it means "Elohim" created the heavens and the earth. If Brother Branham is Elohim he was only born in 1909 and he did not create the world, no! Brother Branham was a sinner saved by grace, he said that many times. Brother Branham corrected that doctrine and heresy many times through out his life, denying that he is the Messiah, he is not God, and that he is not the Lord Jesus Christ. Any man that teaches that is a heretic. Any man that preaches that is a false prophet. If Brother Peter was here he would call them "cursed children, brute beasts made to be taken and destroyed." Elohim the meaning of that is "the self-existing One" and Brother Branham is not the self-existing One. When Brother Branham was born here, there were many other people that existed, many other preachers. He had a father and a mother that existed. Therefore the natural meaning of the word "Elohim" does not fit Brother Branham. He is not Elohim!

Now this doctrine is not only in Nigeria but it is in other parts of Africa and also in India. I dealt with this in a personal way, and we are going to have Book 8 that dealt with this topic here on Brother Branham being God, Elohim and the Messiah

There is a man who wrote to me from India by the name of Anandavel. He changed his name to Peter, and he changed the name of his church to "The Voice of God Tabernacle", even because he got this "mighty revelation" in India and he is bewitching several people in that area, by addressing Brother Branham as "Lord Branham". This man in India prays in Brother Branham's name, baptizes in Brother Branham's name and I guess, tries to work signs and wonders in Brother Branham's name. He went a step further and said that the new name is Branham. In the Old Testament the Bible refers to our Lord Jesus Christ as 'the Branch'.

"Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they [are] men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH." (Zechariah 3:8).

This man took the word 'branch' and turned it to be 'Bran', and the last part of Brother Branham's name, 'ham' goes in with Abraham's name, and said that's the 'new name' of the Lord.

Now, the new name of the Lord was hiding under the Seven Thunders and Brother Branham said that the thunders was not revealed to him. Seals, pages 567-578 bear out this fact. So when a man claims that he knows the new name of the Lord, he is actually claiming to know the Seven Thunders, and Brother Branham said that the Thunders was not revealed to him but they were in an unknown language. When a man claims that he knows the new name of the Lord he is claiming that he knows the unknown language. Now, this is heresy! I am sorry for this poor man here because he bewitched several people. There is a lovely brother there in India, an old man and he stood up against these heresies for a long time.

So this man's projection is that Jehovah was for the Old Testament, Jesus Christ was for the New Testament and now since the opening of the Seals the covenant has changed, now the new name is Branham. I am saying that is heresy, it's a cult, and it's of the devil! Nobody should baptize in the name of Brother Branham. There is only one Name given under heaven whereby we must be saved, and that is the Name of Jesus Christ: "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." (Acts 4:12).

The commanding scripture is to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, not Branham, for the remission of your sins. In Colossians 3:17 the Bible went on to say that "Whatsoever we do, in word or deed, do it all in the name of Jesus Christ." Now that is settled once and for all. No one is supposed to be baptized in the name of Branham or any name other than the Lord Jesus Christ. You ask, "Why preacher?" Because he alone went to Calvary, he alone is the Saviour and he alone shed his blood, thus the redemptive name is Jesus Christ. That is why you are supposed to be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ because he is Saviour and Lord. Brother Branham is not Savior and Lord, brother Branham is Elijah the prophet, Malachi 4:5 & 6.

The Bible never said; 'Behold I send unto you Elohim.' No, it never said behold I send to you Jesus Christ, or 'Behold I send unto you the messiah.' Malachi 4 said: 'Behold I send unto you Elijah the prophet.' Now this is not a new doctrine but rather an old devilish idea that started in the days of brother Branham and in 1969 I encountered it.

I once met a man from Germany and had a confrontation with him. Oh, he believed all kinds of heresies. This man asked me, "Do you believe that brother Branham is God?" I said, "My goodly gentleman, the scripture in Malachi 4 said, 'Behold I send unto you Elijah the prophet', not God." The Bible never told us that God was going to send Elohim. No, it told us that He was sending a prophet. Revelation 10:7 said that a messenger was coming. That messenger was to introduce the Lord. And when God sent a messenger one time, which was John the Baptist, Malachi 3 to introduce the Messiah, John the Baptist was not the Lord. The Lord was going to come after John the Baptist. But notice the similarity of that spirit.

The spirit back in that time was trying to make John the Baptist the Messiah. So the Pharisees went to him and said: "Art thou that one to come? Art thou that prophet or art thou the Christ?" You see, it was a spirit that was moving in that time of the forerunner. And, the prophet of God bear this out in the church ages, where he said, "That spirit must return today.

Quote: 328-2 "I want to make one more comparison between the Laodicean prophet-messenger and John, the prophet-messenger who preceded Jesus' first coming. The people in John's day mistook him for the Messiah…Now this last day prophet-messenger will have such power before the Lord that there will be those who mistake him for the Lord Jesus. (There will be a spirit in the world at the end time that will seduce some and make them believe this… But don't you believe it. He is not Jesus Christ. He is not the Son of God. HE IS ONE OF THE BRETHREN, A PROPHET, A MESSENGER, A SERVANT OF GOD. He needs no greater honor bestowed upon him than that which John received when he was the voice that cried, "I am not He, BUT HE IS COMING AFTER ME." (Laodicean Church Age).

Now, that spirit did not return just in our time. It returned since in the days of brother Branham and that spirit is an antichrist spirit. Brother Branham withstood that spirit and we are going to continue to withstand that spirit. People who preach such things are bewitched! And anybody that believe that doctrine is bewitched.

It is even worse when they say that brother Branham is the Comforter and the Spirit of truth. It is antichrist and blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, which shall not be forgiven men. You are blaspheming the Holy Ghost to make the Holy Spirit a sinner, saved by grace. Jesus said that all manner of sins and blasphemy shall be forgiven men but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven men. And, when you take the Holy Spirit and make the Holy Spirit a man, a sinner saved by grace, you are blaspheming the Holy Ghost and you need to repent before God curses you.

We are not just going to speak on what we think but we are going to quote the words of the prophet. Brother Branham is not Elohim. Elohim means the self-existing one and brother Branham was only born in 1909. Elohim existed before him. I understand the blasphemy that they are trying to bring out. They are saying that the flesh was not Elohim but Elohim was in him so we could worship brother Branham as Elohim. You are a liar! If that was so, brother Branham would say that. Brother Branham never claimed such an office. He denied that and this is the thing that caused the prophet to go off the field. Brother Branham has a whole message dedicated against this heresy. It is called the bruised serpent. The Lord even gave him a vision concerning this heresy.

Quote: "I stood still if people called me a prophet many times…but when it comes to be calling anointed Christ, or something, that was too much for me. So I just couldn't stand that. A few nights ago, to make it sure, I had a visitation from the Lord. And I seen a precious ones, a babying a serpent which was yellow and black, and telling me right along, and the thing struck me on the leg. But the blood was so rich it didn't take effect on me. And I looked down, and there's where I had been bit before. And I turned quickly with a gun and shot the thing, and it hit it right in the middle of the thing. And a brother said...I turned with my gun to shoot its head off, and he said, "Don't do that; just pick up the stick laying there by you." And when I turned my back to pick up the stick, it wiggled into some water, just a small puddle of water. I said, "Well, it can't hurt very much longer now…"It's mortally wounded, so it'll die."…Now, wherever it is; it's a spirit on precious people…And, remember, if you've ever believed me to be a servant of Christ, remember, "That is an error. It's falsely. THUS SAITH THE LORD. It is wrong. Have nothing to do with it. I am your brother." (Rev.Chap.5.Pt1.Bruised.Serpen 61-0611).

This man, Annanandavel Peter, also propagates that Brother Joseph Branham is in his prophetic office right now and also applies the new name to Joseph because he is Joseph "Branham." Thus, Joseph is now carrying the new name of the Lord. It is a lie, it is a heresy!

The question was asked Brother Branham, and after the prophet has spoken I do not care who says what, the prophet's word is final because he is the messenger for our age.

Quote: 972-Q-265 "Brother Branham, it is commonly believed by many that follow your message that you are the Messiah of this day. Is that so?

No, sir…I am not a Messiah. See? Messiah is Jesus Christ, but we are "Messiahettes," every one of us., "Messiah" means "anointed One." And in Him dwelt the Fullness of the Godhead bodily; in me just dwells part of His Spirit, the same as dwells in you. I've been given a gift to know little things and foresee things. That makes me just still your brother. See? I am not the--no Messiah; I am your brother (See?), just a shepherd to the flock. And if I told you I was the Messiah, I'd be a liar. See? And I don't want to be a liar." (Questions And answers COD 64-0823M).

Anybody who says that brother Branham is the messiah, Elohim, the Lord, the Holy Spirit is making brother Branham a liar and he said that he is not a liar and he don't want to be a liar. So when you preach such a heresy, you are making brother Branham a liar, throughout the world. However, I prefer to believe brother Branham and call you a stinking liar! This is what the prophet of God said here; that he was no Messiah and he said that the fullness of the Godhead bodily dwelt in the Messiah. He did not have the fullness of the Godhead within himself; he only had a part of the Spirit. If you make him Elohim; Elohim is the fullness of the Godhead because He was the self- existing one, way back there he was all God. The fullness of the Godhead was dwelling in God himself, Elohim. Then He imparted that into a theophany and on down it come to the word made flesh in the days of Jesus. And he is willing to impart that fullness of the Godhead bodily into the end-time Bride. But at no time will any of us have the fullness of the Godhead bodily in us as individuals. God uses men and he anointed brother Branham in our age with a mighty anointing and gave him a great gift, but he is not the Messiah. These are his own words.

Quote letter: Question # 51: "Some say brother Branham is the Son of Man. I thought the pillar of fire was the Son of Man, am I mistaken?"

Answer: "I am not the Son of man, but a son of man. There's quite a difference. Jesus Christ was the Son of man. Now, the reason that question probably was asked this person or been said, because people regard me as a seer…So I am not the anointed Son of man. I don't claim to be His prophet." (Questions & Answers COD 64-0823E).

This here is a heresy. A heresy of the devil! I wrote this man, Annanandavel Peter, a very loving letter ,and let it apply to anyone in any part of the world, because it is the same heresy. It is the same devil in Nigeria, the same devil in Zambia, the same devil in Malawi, the same devil in United States, and the same devil, home or abroad. Yes, and whatever I am going to say in this letter here, let it answer the question for all heretics that are propagating brother Branham as Elohim, baptizing and preaching in his name. This heresy will cause brother Branham to resurrect from the dead! It will cause him to roll over in his grave if he will hear of such a cult.

I will quote the letters that this man has written me several times. He sent me one big volume of all his teachings, so, this is not hearsay now, I am talking about Annanandavel Peter. He changed his name to Peter. He is probably claiming some kind of special revelation and he probably claims, no doubt, to have the keys to the kingdom of God. He did not testify of this but there must be a reason why this man changed his name to Peter. I think he missed the boat. The keys to the kingdom are already here.

After he had written all his rubbish to me, I wrote him a letter and he never responded even because he has no word to respond. He has no message, he has no hope and no Bible to respond. Yes sir, and I pity this man and the people that follow him so much so that I wrote this letter, hoping to restore him. But when these spirits get upon people it is very hard to get these devils off of them. That is a deity spirit. It is a terrible spirit. My letter that I wrote this man will make up part of this answer to this heresy, wherever you are, in any part of the world. He is from India, Tamel Nadu.

'Greetings to you in the precious name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I have read you literature in which you have plainly stated your beliefs and doctrines. I noticed that you said:
1. Brother Branham is the Lord.
2. Branham is the new name.
3. You pray in the name of Branham

I just want to stand on friendly grounds and enlighten you a little bit